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Level 6 & 7 Mastery.... How you are making us get it has nothing to do with actual Champion Mastery

ThatHaleState··248 votes·9,790 views

It shows LUCK. Do you realize what your implementing Riot? Get this box from playing well - but it has a limited amount

  • Fantastic choice. Love it. Seriously. Now we have to play a million games to get 3 key fragments to unlock this box that will give us a fragment of 1 thing in 3 different categories
  • Now you are starting to lose me Now we are adding Champ mastery levels 6 & 7
  • AWESOME. Finally BUT you have to play 2-3 games of S-,S, or S+ to get a coin to "buy" it from hextech
  • ok, ok, Play well multiple times to get it. Makes since. OH YEAH, also you will need one of these 2 things. (1.) 800 champion essence which is about 3 champion shards (2.) The champion shard for that specific champion. P.S. Don't forget you have to get 3 champion shards from boxes, or hope you randomly get the exact champion shard that you need. Which is a HILAROUSLY small number. All 120+ champs, all current skins and all legacy skins, all ward skins. And you expect us to either get that one champ or burn 3 others? Geez...

161 Comments

Twiggles133 votes

I feel like champion mastery has no purpose being involved with hextech crafting beyond earning chests/keys for doing well. Gating champion mastery behind an RNG just feels wrong to me.

Eeyore6 votes

I believe part of the intent is to give people who own every champion a reason to be receiving champion shards or a use for blue essence.

...you know, instead of excluding owned content from the drop table.

Twiggles13 votes

I get the intent, and as someone who owns every champion I appreciate the consideration.

I just feel like they could come up with a better solution than hiding mastery behind random chance.

My idea: 10,000 blue essence can be converted into 1,000 orange essence or vice versa. I dunno. Just a rough idea of mine.

ForeverLaxx26 votes

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I feel like champion mastery has no purpose

You could have stopped your post at this part.

Battlecast Sona8 votes

every single other moba has a mastery system.... League seriously should've added one, and saying it has "no purpose" is kinda silly - ranked doesn't really have a purpose either, aside from putting you in a ranking on a competitive ladder, and champ mastery is the same sort of deal only accessible to everyone, regardless of whether they wanna play ranked.

Minarde6 votes

champ mastery is the same sort of deal only accessible to everyone, regardless of whether they wanna play ranked.

It's not accessible regardless of whether they wanna play SR though. It's a little weird to call Champ Mastery a League feature when two of the three permanent game modes don't have Mastery.

AtheosisX5 votes

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It's not accessible regardless of whether they wanna play SR though. It's a little weird to call Champ Mastery a League feature when two of the three permanent game modes don't have Mastery.

Especially weird given that all these random, totally unbalanced modes get it.

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

DOTA 2 does not have a mastery system.

cuddlykitten42 votes

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Velzard of Koz11 votes

He meant to tell that CHM has no purpose whatsoever in a joking way (not that I'd fully agree, just translating), he didn't mean to tell that Twiggles shouldn't express his opinion. Before you jump at someone like this and offend them, make sure it's not just your reading comprehension being tested.

The Blue Rajah23 votes

I guess you missed the part where you can buy a random champion shard with ip.

Thumpin6 votes

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-oh?

Well then, I guess we'll put these pitchforks down.

lol jk this is boards, who am I kidding?

ThatHaleState18 votes

How is hoping for 1 champion shard is an impossible amount of shards not considered luck

Angry Monster12 votes

its amazing how you failed to read the part where you can get champ shards for IP

ElysMustache2 votes

What is the source for this entire conversation?

I missed where Riot said anything about Mastery 6/7 recently.

Angry Monster4 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/05/red-post-collection-2016-mid-season.html#5

ElysMustache3 votes

Thank you sir.

Maszii3 votes

Mate, you can get it for 500 blue essence, OR champ shard OR. So you'll only need 500 blue thats not much. Just need 2 S games + 500 blue

Starraka14 votes

there should be ZERO RNG or luck with champ mastery. this champ "mastery" is just turning into another money scam like chromas and hextech crafting.

So far the only thing "mastery" about it is the ranking you get after game and who knows how they formulate that. it should be renamed to "Champion Proficiency"

MrWasjig2 votes

Petition to rename it to "Champion Proficiency".

Someone get on that!

Minarde10 votes

Reminder that Champ Mastery's been out for a year, yet Riot still has no plans to add it to Treeline and ARAM. Rotating Game Mode modes were somehow more deserving of Champ Mastery than the two permanent modes. Players can demonstrate familiarity and skill in temporary modes available one weekend a month, but not in ranked TT.

Needler45 votes

I've been talking about this for a while now. I simply don't understand how Hexakill TT for example is more deserving of mastery points, than normal TT, same for Poro King and ARAM, and so on.

The Sword Saint4 votes

{quoted}

I've been talking about this for a while now. I simply don't understand how Hexakill TT for example is more deserving of mastery points, than normal TT, same for Poro King and ARAM, and so on.

Reds have stated that rotating game modes have been in the work for a long time and took up the team that does the analysis and calculation to set up mastery points on game modes during that time. They do intend to get around to adding mastery points to twisted treeline. Dunno about aram.

LostFr0st2 votes

All I want is that bug where you have to own a champ to get keys gone.

It's super frustrating in ARAM now because people will dodge because they don't own the champ since "oh I'm trying to get keys but I don't own this free-rotation champ I got randomly given."

Zoeeee9 votes

At least they are doing something with unused champion shards, and blue essence.

ThatHaleState42 votes

At least they are doing something with unused champion shards, and blue essence.

I appreciated their effort, but i think this isnt the right way. What if they gave us a converting system? Some people may not be into skins, and some people may have all the champs. Let us convert 50% of essence into the other essence if we choose to do though. Or some other idea, i just came up with that one on the spot

Zoeeee3 votes

{quoted}

I appreciated their effort, but i think this isnt the right way. What if they gave us a converting system? Some people may not be into skins, and some people may have all the champs. Let us convert 50% of essence into the other essence if we choose to do though. Or some other idea, i just came up with that one on the spot

I find unlocking higher teir skins hard if you don't have escessive amounts of essence floating around. Like 1500 for a 1850 skin.

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

1520 for an 1820 skin, to be precise. The amount of essence required to unlock something is 300 less than the normal store price for that item (RP, of course).

Rivini9 votes

To be fair, the current system for reaching level 5 is flawed as well. You don't need to be skilled to reach mastery level 5 on a champion. You could do horrible in your match, but if your team still wins, you get a load of mastery points anyway. Also, you can reach level 5 even by literally losing every match with the champion of your choice and doing horrible on top of it, up until you reach the goal. It takes a heck of a lot longer to get there that way, obviously, but you would eventually.

Not saying I approve of the proposed system for levels 6 and 7, but to say reaching level 5 requires actually mastering the champion would be wrong. It's ultimately only a matter of how many times you spam the champion.

Firu8 votes

I have no idea what the OP is saying. It just reads as an angry rant.

Abysswalker Sif7 votes

Riot only has one thing driving their decisions, and it begins with "m" and ends with "oney"

InivtesPreeze6 votes

Tencent*

Riot stopped being Riot when they were bought out.

TeCoolMage9 votes

My tasty honey Mr Boney

I was Lupxel6 votes

Which is good, now you only can have mastery 6 and 7 with champions you really love and main, instead of the champions you played for a long time because yes. Seriously, can people stop crying about everything? This does not change you gameplay experience, is just about to let people know you MAIN X champion, so you SHOULD put some efford on it

NineTailedMystic8 votes

You mean like how I have over 300k points on my champ, but yet I won't be able to get Masteries 6 and 7 even if I have successive S rank games, all because I don't have the blue essence or her champ shard? I already don't have boxes because I have a small champ pool.

Angry Monster4 votes

its amazing how you failed to read the part where you can get champ shards for IP

NineTailedMystic4 votes

No, I read it. It just depends if the price for them will be outrageous or not. They mentioned "reasonable", but reasonable compared to people who have hundreds of thousands of IP since they own all champs already, or reasonable to the casual who plays twice a week.

Angry Monster5 votes

its a 100 ip for a shard.... 3 or 4 shards will get you enough blu essence if broken down.

Let me guess that is unreasonable though

NineTailedMystic3 votes

No, that's pretty reasonable. I never saw any mention of an official price for it though, hence why I didn't know about it when I made my previous post. Thanks for the information and the downvote though.

Solari Fortune6 votes

Would you rather have it with this system or not at all?

Abysswalker Sif36 votes

Not at all.

Oleandervine5 votes

You've not been keeping up. Meddler said that there will be a new purchase option in the shop once you get your first S rank coin. The purchase will be a Mystery Champ Shard, and will be available for purchase with RP or IP. It will greatly reduce the randomness and keys/chests needed to get to 6 and 7.

The Queen Viper4 votes

... doesn't change the fact that you still have to pay for lvl 6 & 7 mastery though.

Angry Monster4 votes

IP is not paying

The Queen Viper6 votes

Well yes it is... just like you are buying runes with IP etc.

You are using resources, either gained by grinding / playing or $$$.

Either way, it has nothing to do with gaining a mastery with X champ whatsoever and nobody should be obligated to use RP or IP to gain a mastery level. Or use the Hextech Crafting in the first place.

Elewd6 votes

if spending 100 ip on a champ shard is killing your ip wallet, i don't know what to say.

Steel Blossom2 votes

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Count Zubat8 votes

So basically the moment they created this game they should have just killed themselves? Cause, you know, crits, dodge...

Electric Buyers3 votes

This guy knew before anyone...

Serge THE GREAT1 votes

I, uh, information--it's too overwhelming. AHHHHH!!!

Is it seriously this convoluted?

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