The Hidden Reason Why These Smite Supps Are Getting The Shaft

ThatHaleState·2/28/2017, 7:38:09 PM·55 votes·5,594 views

Back in Season 5 item 1401 was released. For those who were around, you remember how broken it was when it first came out. Well, Innovation happened.
summoner 11 summoner 12 Tank Tops became a thing. The two most prevalent were Shyvana and Sion.

  • Shyvana because of her ridiculous clear speed
  • Sion because of his HP stacking passive that worked with item 1401.

They would hard push the wave, run down river, and take Gromp or Krugs or very often just maintain scuttle control at the very least.
This gave the team an additional smite, making objectives "unfair" to contest.

Also in season 5 the AP jungle Item RuneGlaive came out. Immediately people started testing it out.

  • Ezreal was the main offender. AP summoner 11 Mid.

From late Season 4 to Early Season 6 we had the Sated Devourer. It gave so much atk spd + on hit that ppl started innovating. Who woulda thunk it.

  • Far from the least useful of the 3 examples, but it created an entirely new set of junglers and even bot laners took it
  • Vayne became a menice in the jungle and even went summoner 4 summoner 11 bot for a while

Pattern's of laners attempting to use smite to just get shut down through actual nerfs of the item to the point of un-usability

The hidden reason is there is no reason. Riot seems to be afraid of letting players deal with change or innovation. Innovation can't be confined by rules because innovation often leads to the rules changing. Innovation is also fought by the masses until it slowly become accepted as a viable strategy.

Players like the Singed probably deserved a little reprimanding. He made no effort to convey his intentions and plan to the team. Players like the Nunu however wrote a paragraph at every Champ Select and gave tips and answered questions on how to best work with it.

Innovation takes a community wide effort, I do not think any is being given. "Meta" is becoming to important. Maybe I could understand players in Challenger getting upset because they aren't seeing the same 10 champs every game, but anything below that shouldn't matter. If you truly desire League of Legends to be a game where every champion is viable, then let people experiment on how to make it so.

If Nunu can't jungle because of his slow full clear speed, and relatively poor ganks, then I do not see why this innovation isn't accepted?

  • Nunu has amazing single camp dps with Consume(Q) + summoner 11
  • He was originally created and is still labeled as a "Support" in the system. Perma slowing the enemy atk speed and move speed + increasing your own adc's?

I just don't get how people are even upset over this, it sounds genius.

190 Comments

LoomberFoot2/28/2017, 7:58:37 PM40 votes

I'm all for people going off meta but if I was an adc and my support said "going to go nunu support with smite I will constantly be roaming" which would end up leaving you to 1v2 the enemy bot lane I would get mad too.

Escheton2/28/2017, 7:45:51 PM21 votes

[{quoted}](name=Curator of Tanks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pZr9dNzW,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-28T19:38:09.368+0000)

Players like the Singed probably deserved a little reprimanding. He made no effort to convey his intentions and plan to the team. Players like the Nunu however wrote a paragraph at every Champ Select and gave tips and answered questions on how to best work with it.

uhm. Singed did also write a paragraph. He was just less good at convincing people. Probably in part because of champion bias.

Purpl3Jungl32/28/2017, 8:28:31 PM18 votes

Off topic kinda but I just played Smite Supp Teemo hoping I could invade alone, use my passive to hide in bush and smite+flash their buff. Game started, they had no jungler. -_-

SaltyKracka2/28/2017, 8:38:14 PM16 votes

As for the obvious reason why they got told to GTFO...leaving a teammate to 1v2 all game is a shitty thing to do.

When you queue up for support, you're queuing up to support, not jungle.

Doctor Jarvis2/28/2017, 7:51:28 PM15 votes

He. Was. Not. Playing. Support. He was playing a jungler while queued up as support. Meaning he consistently left his adc to go fuck with the enemy's jungle. This is a cute idea and, in a five man pod, I could even see it being a fun thing. But he was not in a five man pod.

Ahristocats2/28/2017, 7:51:34 PM11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Curator of Tanks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pZr9dNzW,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-28T19:38:09.368+0000) Players like the Nunu however wrote a paragraph at every Champ Select and gave tips and answered questions on how to best work with it.

this is my issue right now