Jung item: Devourer replace item idea.

Ataraxas·Apr 25, 2015·1 votes·882 views

Anyone else think it would be a good idea to bring this back? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Madred%27s_Bloodrazor

With tanks getting 25% more hp n all it's 4% of hp as magic damage per hit would go really well in this meta.

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Well tanks can have enough hp to sustain it now with 25% more hp from cinderhulk. Plus it's not like it's true damage it's magic damage. As for nontanks it shouldn't be a big deal since they don't have much hp to begin with, and 4% of that would be even less. And it's not like we don't already have botrk This would be botrk for junglers like cinder hulk is sunfirecape for junglers.

^just wanted to make the sunfire/botrk point

5 Comments

M SchumacherApr 25, 20151 votes

No lmao

masterdragon481Apr 25, 20151 votes

A % max health item isn't going to be a jungle item. It would be incredibly broken and it would just be the thing every attack oriented jungler (and top laner at this point) runs to.

AtaraxasApr 25, 20151 votes

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A % max health item isn't going to be a jungle item. It would be incredibly broken and it would just be the thing every attack oriented jungler (and top laner at this point) runs to.

Well tanks can have enough hp to sustain it now with 25% more hp from cinderhulk. Plus it's not like it's true damage it's magic damage. As for nontanks it shouldn't be a big deal since they don't have much hp to begin with, and 4% of that would be even less. And it's not like we don't already have botrk This would be botrk for junglers like cinder hulk is sunfirecape for junglers.

masterdragon481Apr 25, 20152 votes

Sorry, I don't mean to sound offensive, but do you understand the concept of % max health?

Lets talk in true damage because its easier. If I deal ONLY 10% max health a hit, I will kill you in 10 hits. It doesn't matter if you have 1 health or if you have 1000000000000000. % max health is % max health. This is why % max health damage is capped against monsters, because otherwise taking dragon and baron would be much easier.

BotRK is % current health. that means, technically, Botrk can NEVER kill you (unless you use the active) as the damage it does decreases the lower your opponents health is.

So madreds isn't like botrk.

Giving % max health to junglers is going to completely crowd out tank junglers, it is a natural, perfect counter. It would be completely overpowered, giving way too much power to the buyer.

To put this in perspective, the only two champions I can think of with %max health damage on auto attacks are shyvana and sion. Sion can only use his (10% max health) when he is dead and for a very limited amount of time. Shyvana can only use hers for 5 seconds if she hits a skill shot. It's also important to note that hers is only 2.5% max health; and she is considered incredibly powerful. You want to give a permanent 4% max health buff to EVERY jungler.

It just isn't going to happen.

AtaraxasApr 25, 20151 votes

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Sorry, I don't mean to sound offensive, but do you understand the concept of % max health?

Lets talk in true damage because its easier. If I deal ONLY 10% max health a hit, I will kill you in 10 hits. It doesn't matter if you have 1 health or if you have 1000000000000000. % max health is % max health. This is why % max health damage is capped against monsters, because otherwise taking dragon and baron would be much easier.

BotRK is % current health. that means, technically, Botrk can NEVER kill you (unless you use the active) as the damage it does decreases the lower your opponents health is.

So madreds isn't like botrk.

Giving % max health to junglers is going to completely crowd out tank junglers, it is a natural, perfect counter. It would be completely overpowered, giving way too much power to the buyer.

To put this in perspective, the only two champions I can think of with %max health damage on auto attacks are shyvana and sion. Sion can only use his (10% max health) when he is dead and for a very limited amount of time. Shyvana can only use hers for 5 seconds if she hits a skill shot. It's also important to note that hers is only 2.5% max health; and she is considered incredibly powerful. You want to give a permanent 4% max health buff to EVERY jungler.

It just isn't going to happen.

alright let's just make it current health then and increase it to 8% like botrk