Everyone knows you can QSS Fiora's ult, right?

OverpoweredSoap·Sep 12, 2015·69 votes·12,116 views

Since the last time I checked, it works. I see some people know this and others don't.Seems kind of well known but I still see some people wondering about it.

Just wanted to spread the message to those that don't know.

You QSS and the whole thing disappears, I kinda wonder if this is intended or not, but whatever, she seems pretty damn strong right now anyways.

You don't have QSS for cc anymore, but her team doesn't get a large aoe heal anymore.

(I'm not really talking about whether she's op or not, I just want to see how many people already know.)

102 Comments

KougaSep 12, 201518 votes

Yup.

Cleanse specifically removes CC effects, but not "debuffs" - which is what Fiora's Ult is classified as. QSS on the other hand does.

You can also use QSS to:

Remove Vlad's Ult (so it does not amplify damage, does not proc its damage at the end) Remove Zed's Ult Remove Suppression (WW, Malz etc) Removes Ignite & the Grievous Wounds Drop Fizz's Ult fish on the ground (can be picked up again if someone else walks on it) Remove Darius' passive debuff stacks, Diana's Moonlight (so her ult doesn't refresh on you) Interestingly, you can use it when Nocturne Ults to regain vision (although he can still target you) And basically every DoT ability in the game.

Prospector PeteSep 12, 201516 votes

But every ADC would rather get another item 3072 than a item 3139 because actives are so hard to use

RysophageSep 12, 20151 votes

My vayne build has ghostblade, bork, and scimitar almost every game. My fingers are buff boi

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20159 votes

Pansy. Play support. See how buff those fingers are when you have 6 actives to balance.

AnidanSep 13, 20154 votes

The dota is real in this one. 6 actives can be rough in a hectic situation sometimes, I have to say lol.

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20158 votes

Only when you're trying too Targon someone. ... Wait, that was crucible. Lets try again. ... Nope, locket. Sorry, Karthus can kill you all now. . . . Er, Twin ghosts. My bad. . . . Ah, there it is!

... Oh... You're dead. My bad. At least I still have sweepers and sight stone.

AnidanSep 13, 20151 votes

You're my spirit animal. That happens to me when I play supports on any of the MOBAs (I like to jump around and find the pros and cons to each one and have fun with the different game systems).

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20153 votes

I'm an animal? I'm a spirit?

when the heck did this happen!?

AnidanSep 13, 20151 votes

It happened around the time some sort of space-time distortion hit the boards and made everyone talk about Dunkey almost exclusively for a good several hours yesterday. I blame space-time distortions, my now-spirit animal!

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20151 votes

Eh, well. You take the good with the bad I guess.

I DEMAND TRIBUTE!

DeusVultSep 12, 20158 votes

2 item 3072 are never worth it, the LS is unique

KougaSep 12, 20154 votes

Holy shit it is Unique now.

I didn't realize they changed that TT n TT

I GANK LANESSep 13, 20151 votes

item 3153 > item 3072 in almost every situation

LankPantsSep 13, 20152 votes

It's better to get an item 3508 than another item 3072 even if the passive is worthless. It's cheaper, you get the same AD, more lifesteal and a little bit of CDR.

The LovelessSep 12, 20152 votes

Cleanse doesn't remove ignite? I could've sworn it did. Did this get changed recently?

KougaSep 12, 20152 votes

Yes & no. It does remove the damage portion but not the Grievous Wounds (healing reduction) portion of it. So it won't kill you, at least, but QSS will remove both the damage and the heal debuff.

Chuck CharlesSep 12, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Loveless,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y2otPTfY,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2015-09-12T20:10:28.702+0000)

Cleanse doesn't remove ignite? I could've sworn it did. Did this get changed recently?

It does. Cleanse removes all disabled and summoner spell debuffs like exhaust and ignite

RikariSep 12, 20151 votes

It practically brings you back to your 100% normal state. things like Diana Q Braum Lux passive. it even stopped teleport's channeling and idk if it stops knockups,unlikely though.

JJI744Sep 13, 20151 votes

{quoted}

It practically brings you back to your 100% normal state. things like Q passive. it even stopped teleport's channeling and idk if it stops knockups,unlikely though.

Yes and no. It will not remove the knockup itself.

But!!

A lot of knockups have a stun attached to them to prevent you from using mobility moves while under the effects of the knockup. The stun can be cleansed, allowing you to take actions such as flash away while still in the air.

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20152 votes

Interesting note on Braum passive: The cooldown portion is a debuff (It lets him deal extra damage). If you QSS the passive, he can just stun you again!

Dar RaksadaSep 13, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Yup.

Cleanse specifically removes CC effects, but not "debuffs" - which is what Fiora's Ult is classified as. QSS on the other hand does.

You can also use QSS to:

Remove Vlad's Ult (so it does not amplify damage, does not proc its damage at the end) Remove Zed's Ult Remove Suppression (WW, Malz etc) Removes Ignite & the Grievous Wounds Drop Fizz's Ult fish on the ground (can be picked up again if someone else walks on it) Remove Darius' passive debuff stacks, Diana's Moonlight (so her ult doesn't refresh on you) Interestingly, you can use it when Nocturne Ults to regain vision (although he can still target you) And basically every DoT ability in the game.

Do note that removing suppression from ww's ult does not remove the damage until you move out of range.

KougaSep 13, 20151 votes

Yes which is why I said it removes the Suppression. The damage for both Malz and WW will continue until you break the tether range.

Dar RaksadaSep 13, 20151 votes

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Yes which is why I said it removes the Suppression. The damage for both Malz and WW will continue until you break the tether range.

It wasn't meant as criticism, just wanted to empehasise because I often see people qss'ing the surpress but then stay in the tether range.

Penta PenguinSep 13, 20151 votes

"fizz ult interacts uniquely with QSS for some reason"

League of Clarity :^)

Ariel the CruelSep 13, 20151 votes

Fizz ult is actually special cased.

DyphurionSep 12, 201510 votes

Oh damn! That's useful! Thanks for the tip!

BhagswagSep 13, 20156 votes

Good tip. I just wished Qss had more build paths.

Mirage SeraphSep 12, 20155 votes

I've actually been playing Fiora almost nonstop since her rework. Broken or not, don't really care, I just find her super fun. But yeah, I JUST found out about this last night. Threw me off for a second, ahah...

It also clears the current vital as well. Though I doubt it's worth using just for that, unless it really means life or death, since it refreshes after a second anyways.

AHeroNamedHawkeSep 12, 20155 votes

People arent even aware that you can QSS Last Breath, so probably not

LuggSep 12, 20152 votes

Had to upvote for your name alone. LOL

WutsKrakenSep 12, 20151 votes

Or that you can Zhonya's it either

Hyrum GraffSep 13, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Or that you can Zhonya's it either

They fixed that, I think.

yukumariSep 12, 20154 votes

I actually had no idea. ty for that

DreadlocksSep 12, 20153 votes

Can you cleanse it? ^^;

AckelopeSep 12, 20159 votes

Fairly certain Cleanse won't work since Cleanse is designed to combat CC specifically and only removes that last i checked, whereas QSS removes all debuff effects.

TurquoiseYoshiSep 12, 20153 votes

I don't think so, Cleanse doesn't clear many champion-specific things like that.

LuggSep 12, 20152 votes

I bet 90% of players don't know.

gubigubiSep 12, 20152 votes

I honestly didn't know that and I have like 200 games played with new Fiora.

Also QSS should probably build into like 1 more item at least to make it actually viable so that champions like zed/fiora don't have to take nerfs when counter play items exist but no one buys them because they are weak for a lot of champions.

bad manner kidSep 12, 20151 votes

"Just QSS [ champion ability ] when you're already behind and can't even build your first primary item."

The problem with all these reworks is laning. You can deal with broken champions later in the game, but dying 2-3 times and being behind 1000g before 15 minutes is the real problem.

WutsKrakenSep 12, 20152 votes

So...don't get rekt in lane?

Lane phase vs new Fiora is not impossible (even if you lose CS and don't feed her into snowballing its ok) and QSS builds into one of the highest AD items in the game

RalanrSep 13, 20151 votes

I love playing against her as Pantheon (actually in general). I enjoy the extra challenge of working around the vitals.

I can see why people hate them though.

BakedLotionSep 12, 20151 votes

It's hilarious how QSS only counters abilities from AD champions. (other than cc) There isn't a single thing worth QSSing (again, besides cc) from AP champions, but there are for AD ones. Death Mark, Grand Challenge, Silver bolts...

Auz the RipperSep 12, 20151 votes

Right nothing from AP

Malzahar

BakedLotionSep 12, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Auz the Ripper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y2otPTfY,comment-id=00140000,timestamp=2015-09-12T23:32:17.864+0000)

Right nothing from AP

I assume you didn't graduate 2nd grade. I clearly stated besides CC. Twice.

Auz the RipperSep 13, 20153 votes

I was referring to Malfic Visions, it deals 320+(.8 AP) over three seconds and is Malzahar's main source of damage. Malz very much relies on it to kill people. I've lost several kills to people using QSS in such a manner.

ARequestOfDeathSep 13, 20151 votes

ap Mordekaiser

gaby1bestSep 13, 20151 votes

Cassiopeia poison passive Ekko passive stacks Diana Q Fizz ult Teemo E Vladimir ult Malzahar E Mordekaiser Ult Leblanc Q/R

Leu07Sep 13, 20151 votes

Can you summoner 1 it too?

OverpoweredSoapSep 13, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Can you it too?

No.

N3mO06Sep 14, 20151 votes

The problem is that Fiora can delete everyone without any vitals points.......so removing her ult isn't so usefull even if without aoe heal is easier to fight against