*Sees Anivia picked*
Starts crying
I don't care if xPeke doesn't do well, I'm just really happy I see Anivia.
Starts crying
I don't care if xPeke doesn't do well, I'm just really happy I see Anivia.
LOL at Game report at end of the game desk
"xPeke proves that the bird is the word, picking Anivia and putting TSM on ice"
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LOL at Game report at end of the game desk
"xPeke proves that the bird is the word, picking Anivia and putting TSM on ice"
You know theres something wrong when people have to celebrate because a champion was picked. Says something about their 'diversity'
Well, but OG just proved that Anivia is more than viable in certain circumstances, even beating a meta pick in Viktor, so someone could argue that indeed Riot is nailing the right spot overall, once you discount for the obvious OP champs that end up to be in the game after every patch
Even the casters made a point during the game: Anivia pick can be easily punished, and the only reason why it worked against TSM was because it was TSM.
TSM being weak in the early game is one of the only defining traits any teams at S5WC have. Player-specific bans are a rarity (bravo C9), team-specific comps are a rarity - everyone just copies whatever gets popular.
Picking Anivia was only possible because TSM had a weakness no top team should have. It's like picking Olaf mid vs a Wildcard team (which is what Faker did). If we want to talk about picks at competitve level, let's consider only picks in games between teams of somewhat equal skill.
You know who is weaker than TSM early?
Almost everyone in soloq.
SoloQ players wont lose millions for that though.
Neither will TSM. They'll lose a million, and that's split evenly, and they'll still get prize money.
And that's irrelevant. The point is "OG just proved that Anivia is more than viable in certain circumstances, even beating a meta pick in Viktor, so someone could argue that indeed Riot is nailing the right spot overall, once you discount for the obvious OP champs that end up to be in the game after every patch"
And I pointed out that saying "it only worked against TSM," is a bad rebuttle.
I'm tired of seeing the "Pick Bard" signs, since Bard has had more presence than other characters in the LCS at this point.
Alternately, if there's celebration because a champion that wasn't considered strong enough before was now picked and did well, as seems to be happening a lot this worlds, it says that they're doing something right.
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Alternately, if there's celebration because a champion that wasn't considered strong enough before was now picked and did well, as seems to be happening a lot this worlds, it says that they're doing something right.
Just because they're not considered strong and does well doesn't mean they did something right. Anivia is probably one of the most balanced champions. What I'm saying is that it's sad that people celebrate someone picking a champion, since that obviously means they don't see many champions outside of the fotm ones.
The real thing that happened was more player skill. xPeke could've just been a better player. I know i can beat a player that's worse than me playing Darius with someone that's not considered strong like Sion.
Anivia has situations she shines. That's the point. If it were as cut and dry as "he could've just been a better player" that wouldn't stand, because if it weren't for the reason he picked Anivia, then he could have just gone with any other better midlaner and won.
"Anivia is probably one of the most balanced champions."
Exactly. She's balanced, but you never see her, and people claim that means she's bad. It doesn't mean that, which is good for Riot. You didn't really argue against this guys point, you just said "not necessarily," and then said exactly what he said :P
Good for Anivia, she carried that game hard.
Xpeke has been doing some work this worlds.
Anivia is op dude. Not surprising he carried.
I know it's not the positive consensus, but I agree. She has a very painful early game but she is the best late game mage in the game.
And all throughout the game, they're talking about these off-meta picks that Origin made.
I'm like:
Anivia doesn't go AP Mid anymore? That's surprising??
Uncommon** is the word they should use.
Some people don't understand what defines meta I guess.
They mean the competitive meta, which changes somewhat every few patches. Anivia has seen very little competitive play for over a year now.
You and me both, my entire night has been made.
bff till (almost) death!
Anivia is like Galio. They are very strong champions that don't get played due to being very mana gated early. If you can survive the first 10 minutes, they are probably as strong as any champ in the game.
i'd say they are stronger than most champions in the game, if you survive their horrific mana problems early on
Yeah, playing as Anivia is an investment, you're miserable during the laning phase and then fuck over everybody on every teamfight due to your ridiculous zone control power.
This says a lot about Bjergsen who, even with a pick as strong as Viktor couldn't punish Anivias early game.
It does as in an evenly played matchup, viktor will either just push the wave with laser to put anivia behind in farm or harass the heck out of anivia with laser. He was letting xPeke get way too much farm.
Once you get past the mana, she's STRONGER than most champions.
Personally I don't play Anivia because you are asking for the enemy jungler to camp your lane. And you can't afford losing farm early game.
That is why her wall is so great. You can cut off the gank really quick.
Farm isn't a big concern with Anivia, she can clear waves SO fast once she hits 6.
Riot then proceeds to gut her.
Let's nerf her MS, she has far too much mobility.
Yeah, Mobility shouldnt be given to mages like her (
Yep coz nooooooo mages have mobility nowadays
As far as I would agree with you, I have to say that
or
have completely different playstyles that need mobility.
I wanna see someone play
He's actually pretty okay against Darius... well sorta...
I wanna see someone play
He's actually pretty okay against Darius... well sorta...
Even tho kennen "counter" melee champion, I prefer to play him mid.. I dunno what I'm doing wrong, but I do 0 damage to Darius/Garen/(Insert top lane tank), or they just heal when my skills are on cd. I can't all in any of these champion unless they 1/6 hp, but if I make a mistake and get too close, they kill me with 1 combo. How does kennen counter top melee champs?
marksmen with like AA range plus very long range harass with Q plus stun and a speed boost to escape a dive? It's risky but can virtually counter almost all melee champs
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marksmen with like AA range plus very long range harass with Q plus stun and a speed boost to escape a dive? It's risky but can virtually counter almost all melee champs
Yeah, except that after the enemy backs and buys some mr, you do virtually no dmg. They can't catch you, but you can't kill them either. The exception is that if they let you kite/poke them, they loose some hp, if you get caught, you die.
Excpet that you have a much bigger siege potential than them, and you can play around this thing to get additional objectives late game p.S. and a Trinity Force doesn't sound like a bad idea for him ;D
I noticed it too.. I have trouble against them but I don't feed at least because I can farm without getting close.
I have fun taking him botlane as an ADC. then when I see the enemy laners OOM that's when it's time to strike. (Im in bronze so ya xD)
I'm crying for the complete opposite reason. A champion being picked in pro games and doing well will mean they're gonna get nerfed to the ground.
Only when she's a common pick. They've literally never nerfed a champ based on one pro game.
Only when she's a common pick. They've literally never nerfed a champ based on one pro game.
We still have a while to go .__.
It was very comp centric, and wouldn't really work again :P DW.
Bard got picked today too ♡
Bard got picked today too ♡
Sadly the player who picked him (dont remember his name) had really poor ults
kitties, and it was bad
I feel you
same with Incarnati0n and Veigar for me 
thats so me when people started respecting my soraka
As the analysts said, Anivia isn't bad in a veeeeery long game. Given that TSM doesn't kill people and loses in the late game, it was a great pick!
In normal circumstances, her kit is fine in the same way Malz's kit is fine.
Wooo! Fuck mobility creep! :D
I'm still waiting for Zyra and Taric :P