Vayne and the new PD

StankBootyHoe·Nov 7, 2015·3 votes·671 views

Is gonna push her over the top. Riot please have mercy on our souls.

10 Comments

howstheweather13Nov 7, 20152 votes

Is it so hard to accept. Vayne is s late game hypercarry and she has been balanced and given a kit that fits that thematically, she is also a duelist meaning she can beat you in a 1v1 easily (practice practice practice).

People were QQ'ing about her damage vs squishes, so it got nerfed. People were complaining about her early game damage, so it got nerfed hard. They nerfed the niche item in her kit for crying out loud and without any rationality you just decided to QQ about your impulse driven epiphany.

BergkNov 7, 20151 votes

BOTRK got nerfed by 2%, so that helps. But ya the new PD is pretty stronk on her.

ValyrianBladeNov 7, 20152 votes

I heard Vayne's W was buffed by 2% to counteract that nerf exactly. So it won't, unless that was/gets reverted.

BergkNov 7, 20151 votes

Silver Bolts (W): Base damage of 20/30/40/50/60 removed % of max health damage increased to 6/7.5/9/10.5/12% from 4/5/6/7/8% New minimum damage vs all targets added - 40/60/80/100/120

Base damage lost, but %HP increased. But silver bolts are every 3rd auto, BOTRK is every auto

RebonackNov 7, 20152 votes

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Silver Bolts (W): Base damage of 20/30/40/50/60 removed % of max health damage increased to 6/7.5/9/10.5/12% from 4/5/6/7/8% New minimum damage vs all targets added - 40/60/80/100/120

Base damage lost, but %HP increased. But silver bolts are every 3rd auto, BOTRK is every auto

She also lost WAY more of her scaling AD than the other ADCs did.

She's out 15ish attack damage in her kit if memory serves.

ValyrianBladeNov 7, 20151 votes

Yes, but BotRK is magic damage, Vayne's W is true damage. So against anyone with MR this is a net damage increase.

The minimum damage vs all targets makes it so that it performs similarly in lane I'd imagine, but perhaps it's more for last hitting minions.

Anyways though, 2% more true damage at rank 1 and 4% more at rank 5. She'll have rank 5 shortly after BotRK, so you're losing 2% CURRENT health MAGIC damage for 4% MAX health TRUE damage on third hits. I'd take the latter any day.

windwolf777Nov 7, 20151 votes

Yes, but BotRK is magic damage

Unless it got changed in the pre season it's physical I think.

MarthianNov 7, 20151 votes

I haven't even seen any Vaynes on PBE (maybe it's just me.)

She got nerfed hard though:

BoRK costs 200g more, is now 6% instead of 8%. Base AD raised a bit, but AD per level dropped (Past level 4, it's a nerf.) W has no flat damage, is nerfed vs targets below 1500 HP, buffed if target above 1500 HP (which will matter mid-late game on squishy targets.)

And not to mention she isn't the only champion that was affected by the rework. Should be more worried about the other carries.

StankBootyHoeNov 7, 20151 votes

Even with those nerfs she's still an awesome duelist. The PD's 12% movementspeed, and damage reduction on the enemy is just too much with her kit as she's already hard to fight anyway

MarthianNov 7, 20151 votes

Other ADCs can get that too (agreed her move speed is ridiculous though).

Still preseason, and it's very unlikely these will remain the same the next few patches.