Why hate toplane teemo

z63XnLCMwX··15 votes·1,861 views

When Heimerdinger exist.

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Big Lincoln14 votes

why not hate both?

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Its to much for their brains to hate both...

Only Play Darius6 votes

Heimerdinger top was definitely worse than Teemo, but Teemo was far more likely to be picked. Heimer also just got a rework with the goal of reducing his oppressive laning phase vs melee champions, unlike Teemo.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku5 votes

He's still definitly worse than teem atm... but no need to decide to hate one over other... Hate them both

MetalGearTeemu2 votes

yeah, teemo just flat out loses to most meta toplane melee due to mobility creep.

Critmaster Garen6 votes

how does heimer being a turd to lane against make teemo any better?

its just as much of a dumb argument as saying, "why hate hitler, when there was stalin?"

TimX24968B1 votes

one was much more judgemental

Irelia Bot1 votes

Why given Stalin a pass when there was Hitler?

Hemulen Magi3 votes

Teemo should be pushed into the bot-lane marksmen role and out of top-lane.

If your team lacks magic damage but has plenty of physical damage, the bot-laner should take an AP/hybrid marksmen or artillery mage. I think these should be rebalanced into meta bot-lane ADC alternatives and rarely played in top: Teemo Azir Kayle Cassiopeia Corki Kennen Xerath Ziggs Heimerdinger

FioraWillCarry1 votes

I mained Azir in the past and Kayle currently. They don't work bot lane. Both champs are highly dependent on levels for a decent portion of their power.

Also, Azir suffers from mana problems early game. Bot lane being a wild lane with lots of action, Azir finds himself OOM most of the time. In a solo lane Azir can choose his own pace. It's not possible in a lane with four champions.

Kayle scales like a marksman, but unlike them, she has zero damage early game. Against competent opponents, she would not be able to farm at best, at worst, she'll feed her ass off. Kayle is one of the easiest champions in the game to bully in the early game.

Now, you can get fed and carry with them, I've done it. But it would be more because your opponents are horrible than the picks being good. Play it 100 times and you might get favorable results like 10 times.

Automated Riven1 votes

All they have to do to achieve that is remove the blind and give him some sort of scaling with AP. something that allows him to achieve adc level damage on auto attack later in the game.

AR URF2 votes

Because if he's a smart teemo he'll build on hit tankmo with wits end and lots of mr. I dumpstered a heimer doing that.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i just play galio into donger top and no issue lol

Melledoneus2 votes

Because that blind.

But Heimer is stupid too.

Catastrop1 votes

Because all I have to do is go Karma top and faceroll my keyboard in a Donger matchup. Teemo just causes headaches after the millionth time you need to stop his split push.

reaperteaser1 votes

because Nasus exists

FourVsFive6 votes

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because Nasus exists

Games don't really last long enough for nasus to be an issue.

Only Play Darius1 votes

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doiminat0r36001 votes

Did you:

  • have low HP?
  • Get poked down?
  • Get ganked?
  • Ward?
  • use your pots?
  • Not bait out Tryndamere's ultimate?

Those are the only things I can think of being the issue against tryndamere.

Only Play Darius1 votes

I just got pushed in repeatedly and Ivern+Trynd dove me without problem. Ivern was sitting on a ward half the time it didn't matter, I was red side and won't blame my jungler for not helping because no other toplaner is that helpless early game. Trynd took first tower and fought 5v4 while I was trying to catchup in stacks. Nasus doesn't fit in the game.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Nasus does fit in the game. He just isnt relevant until 30+ minutes because stacks. Games don't last long enough.

If you were repeatedly pushed down by ivern + trynd, then you should have not stayed when Ivern just sat on that ward. You could have avoided that towerdive death you know. Of course trynd is gonna towerdive at 6, especially if you're low. Best choice at that point is to just put a W on him, do damage to pop his ult, and maybe he won't get out of turret range before the ultimate stops.

LegacyDAP1 votes

E Max Nasus

rework trundle1 votes

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Games don't really last long enough for nasus to be an issue.

He spikes actually early enough, he's harder to play in diamond+. I only know Angormus and Sirhcez in diamond, quas and scarra (but he builds AP) in challenger, while there are so many more in plat and below.

Blåbæret3 votes

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because Nasus exists

Nasus has been garbage for a long time.

Ambient Snow1 votes

Teemo is picked as Top laner cause he counters most of the hard top lane pushers.

the issue is teemo is picked top lane. and your team refuses to pick a tank because most people don't want to play a tank they want to play a burster. so teemo is usually the one raged at cause its a

" OMG if top would have picked a tank instead of teemo we would have won"

IceKingChernobog1 votes

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Teemo is picked as Top laner cause he counters most of the hard top lane pushers.

the issue is teemo is picked top lane. and your team refuses to pick a tank because most people don't want to play a tank they want to play a burster. so teemo is usually the one raged at cause its a

" OMG if top would have picked a tank instead of teemo we would have won"

what top laners do you play? most meta top laners such as Riven Kled Galio Renekton Illaoi Dumpster him.

Darius and Nasus would have some trouble against him early but once they hit lvl 3-4 they should be able to all in an destroy him.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Hate them both [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Escheton1 votes

Because Heimer is overtuned currently and annoyingly a good flavor of the week. But Teemo is enduring.

Raiyza1 votes

Teemo is actually one amazing split push. He can turn the top side of the map into a mushroom field. Would make it time costing to the enemy team to collapse/stop his push.

Too bad nobody actually does that.

lilycu1 votes

Anvia top is cancer try it

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Because CC'ing Teemo actually does something

Darkdemon6531 votes

Yeah, Heimer is definitely too good against melees. It's funny that Riot acknowledged this, "tried" to change it, and made him even better against melees. I haven't seen him in enough games to determine if he's OP in general, though, but he's far more frustrating than he was before.

korg0231 votes

^

arcDapineapple1 votes

the issue with teemo top is early game his good but late game he falls off hard in a team fight because his blind is mostly for the adc and teemo can not get close to the adc in a team fight in this tank cc meta

Sozan51 votes

Actually...

Teemo winrate rises the longer game goes.

His early is his weakest phase, because he can be countered easily (mostly with ganks or just being aggressive (if your champ allows aggresion against Teemo) and even when he gets the lead he lacks real power to make use of it in early game (he can splitpush to an extent and counterjungle, but his roaming is subpar). And when he doesn't get a lead, he is basically a free kill for enemies.

On the other hand, in late, shrooms can very often save your base, win you a teamfight (if your team knows how to fight alongside Teemo - that is more of a defensive approach) and generally provide map control (a single shroom can win a game sometimes).

TimX24968B1 votes

Sion + E YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER PERMITS TO PLACE YOUR TURRETS HERE, HEIMERDINGER.

Also, he destroys toplane teemo. just harass with E+Q combos and burn off poison with W. sions auto's suck, so the blind doesn't do anything to him.

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