Annie is inevitably going to get Veigared, might as well just do it now.

Ch0c0lateJesus··4 votes·553 views

So, Annie has gotten a long list of buffs over the past couple of seasons.

Because support Annie wouldnt go away; Her base damages were lowered, but her scaling was raised.

Her Q was buffed to not only return 100% mana if it killed the target, but also reduce the cooldown by half.

Her shield was buffed to give a speed boost to Ttibbers when activated.

Most recently some of her core items saw buffs. item 3027 Is cheaper item 3089 gives more damage

After the buffs to her scaling, combined with the buffs to her items, and the buff to her Q that halves it's cooldown on minion kill, allowing her to have her stun up pretty much permanantly in lane, is it really suprising that her win rate in mid is now 55% ?

Lets stop making excuses for a champ who's damage is way too easy to land. Lets stop pretending her "short range" entirely makes up for it. Also what's up with the Q farming mechanic? Her supposed counterplay of trading between her stun procs is gone, her stun is always up, even if she farms with Q.

Here's a start, remove that half reset on her Q. Have it only return half the mana cost if it kills the unit.

Then give Tibbers the Veigar stun treatment.

12 Comments

NERDSMASHER50012 votes

RoA ain't core on Annie lol

Pretty Dhizi2 votes

I agree she needs nerfs..but I doooon't agree on saying she'll get 'Veigared'...Since well, the newer Veigar is a LOT more fun to play, has more poke, and he just feels less clunky/more reliable after the update.

i think what you're looking for is 'she's gonna get Elised'. item 3070 Elise item 3070

Prospector Pete2 votes

^^This

lB2kGRlc8y2 votes

More reliable? what part of making his stun impossible to land on a mentally full functioning individual and making his Q a skillshot added reliability? I always played Veigar passively to farm for late game glory since before the gutting, but all the update really did was force Veigar into the submissive role by gutting his dueling potential and making him rely solely on enemy mistakes rather than his own skill. Also calling his Q a poke doesn't really qualify because it won't hit an opponent in lane past their creep wave unless they're an extremely aggressive player or are a melee with no clue how to position. Oh and its CD was increased too, so its even more of a waste of potential now as you not only don't guarantee it'll land, but takes longer to recharge.

Marthian1 votes

If her Q gets nerfs on its reset mechanics, she will need buffs on her auto attack. It is very awkward to use for farming.

Prospector Pete1 votes

I agree. Her Q definitely needs to be nerfed on its reset mechanic, but then they'd need to make her auto attack less clunky so she can actually last hit with it.

Ch0c0lateJesus2 votes

Nearly every single mage has crappy auto attacks. Annie doesnt deserve better until the rest get them.

Marthian1 votes

Annie's is much worse than the average mage. She has THE lowest attack speed of any champion, giving her a long windup compared to everyone else. She also has a slow projectile speed.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

No. She is just fine. Learn to play against her. Nerfing her will be too much.

Ch0c0lateJesus3 votes

Hard to argue with an argument that contains no actual argument, so I will counter your argument in similar fassion:

No. She isnt fine. She needs nerfs.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I wasn't argueing, just disagreeing. She is fine as is.

Erockandroll1 votes

She's a staple pick in the LCS. The organization that pays the bills. Most likely they won't do anything to her until worlds is done.

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No. She is just fine. Learn to play against her. Nerfing her will be too much.

For the most part I agree. But Balanced does not Equal Fine. She may have counter play issues, regardless of how balanced she actually is. Though Riot is going to maintain her support identity probably though worlds. Yet as a support. Her problem, really isn't a problem at all. If they wanted a temporary measure, just nerf her damage. that would get boards to shut up while keeping her Support build intact.

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