Been playing the new Graves a bit and i gotta say, hes pretty damn fun. But, he is a little bit too strong. Max rank E (dash) gives you 30 Armor and MR, stacking up to 4 times for a whopping 120 Armor and MR. That is too much. I also think the damage taken by champions for getting hit but more than 1 bullet should be reduced. Thoughts?
Gragas Esq. can have a cigarette but Graves cant have a cigar?
CasterGilgamesh1 votesi feel that riot should simply increase the reload time on his autos but let him have more bullets like say he has a 7 second reload time but gets to have 4 bullets stored that way he can burst and has to wait for his burst longer and increase the auto reload timer when he uses a bullet
LordGeovanni1 votesGragas Esq has money and money talks. Graves wasn't 'speaking up' for his rights
Lugg1 votesGraves is more than a little strong. Just played a game against a Graves jungle and he had 5 kills before 10 minutes.
Zair Umbras1 votesGraves has a bit too strong of damage overall, but I feel it's not his AA's that should be punished. His Q can do a nasty amount of damage early and late and if you know how to aim it at a wall, you can do it all instantly. Bit too much damage on that Q. His E is also waaaaaaay too powerful in extended fights. Just getting 2 or 3 stacks turns him into a tanky terror, giving upwards of 60 MR and Armor at the start of a fight to the max amount of 120 near the middle.
I think if the stacks were limited to 2 and the amount lowered to 20 per stack, he'd be fine, but as it sits, he doesn't take much of a risk anymore to get off his maximum damage output. His damage should match his range, which it does, a bit too much with his Q, but his E gives him a ton of stats that he really shouldn't be getting.
Bloodhawk951 votesYea i was thinking 20 per stack max rank on the E also. Q needs less AD scaling to fix that problem. 120 MR and Armor on an adc is ridiculous, if he can get that from a few dashes. I build essence reaver on him just for the cdr, and as soon as i finish it, gg