Buff the AP to 80 or 70
or give the 20% of magus back!!
40 AP for heavy AP builds MEAN THAT IT HOLD YOUR BURST BACK!!
i understand that 20% cdr may be OP but 80 AP or 70AP up from 40 wouldnt make anything OP it will make this item good for AP heavy builds!!
Hupsis3 votesIt's actually quite fine. Only problem I can think of is that late game it might be better to swap it for something more powerful.
Maybe give it a stacking AP mechanic. Each jungle camp cleared and kill/assist gives permanent +2 AP for a maximum of +40 AP.
Dr Birdie2 votes
Heavy breathing
Celeste Benal1 votesooooo, an AP Devourer.
Crett2 votes[{quoted}](name=Celeste Benal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XscpTiwt,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-06-25T21:21:01.369+0000)
ooooo, an AP Devourer.
It's not a devourer unless it infinitely scaled. That looks like the old S4 jungle item that gave you some AP upon clearing up to a cap.
I mean, if they made an infinitely scaling AP item, 
jungle would become a thing. 140% AP to max health = Apocalypse
The Trent1 votesIt's not a devourer unless it infinitely scaled. That looks like the old S4 jungle item that gave you some AP upon clearing up to a cap. I mean, if they made an infinitely scaling AP item,
lol he would die to the jungle camps early and get invaded like there is no tomorrow.
Hard4Hamsters3 votesI don't think it needs that much AP honestly, the passive is really strong for clears and ganks on the junglers it is made for 
and 
(there are others), and I think that giving it a full 80 AP would be excessive. I do think it is kinda low though and I would much like to see it give 60 AP. Anymore and I think it would be way too gold efficient with it's passive and would be more or less a straight buff to the old Magus rather than a strong replacement item that is balanced in the way that it has lower combat stats.
Pink Punk Zebra1 votes[{quoted}](name=MyNamesAmsToki ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XscpTiwt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-06-25T17:24:01.034+0000)
I don't think it needs that much AP honestly, the passive is really strong for clears and ganks on the junglers it is made for
actually the old Magus was way stronger that the current jungle item 80AP and 20% CDR is what the AP champs need!!!
This item is only good for nidalee because she can proc good with her Q diana maybe but still the 20% CDR was way stronger than some spell blade effect that make you unable to buy lich bane!! because when you hit the point that you were buying Lich bane now not only you lost the 40 AP and 10% cdr from magus but the 15% AP ratio from lich bane because you cant build it and the 5% MS
And you say that this item is "good"?
Hard4Hamsters2 votesYeah. It is. The mana sustain on top of the AOE spellblade proc is really good for jungling. It allows for even faster clears using less spells, and it keeps you in the jungle even when you don't have blue buff.
With Magus, you had to recall more often at lower item breakpoints so you could be effective as a jungler. You would also need to grab Catalyst or Tear as your second item to help you with mana sustain (or you could horde blue buffs all game). Those two items do not provide a lot of combat stats off the bat and are only strong items much later in the game in RoA and AA staff.
Compare that with Runeglaive; your second item can be something with meaningful combat stats such as 
or 
without the running out of mana inside the jungle. In turn, you end up with more AP along with other meaningful stats, passives and/or actives. Your ganking potential is more potent due to the increased combat stats and a spellblade proc; you also have increased mana to pull off ganks effectively. Staying in the jungle, potential to gank more often, and gold going to more effective items makes for a stronger jungling item.
Now. Everybody wants to point out that you cannot build Sheen items in conjunction with Runeglaive, but really, would you be able to build Lichbane easily with Magus? You have a few items that you would probably want before Lichbane with Magus: Magus enchant was first, then you would have to buy RoA or Tear into AA staff. After that you probably want Deathcap, Zhonya's, Abyssal, or Void staff as your next few items because they either give you more damage, more defenses, or more utility than Lichbane. Likely, you wouldn't be able to buy lichbane until your 4th or 5th item because other items are higher priority.
Having Runeglaive allows for a more open build path for junglers. It makes it easier for AP junglers to acquire more gold, and this makes for a more potent AP jungler.
Again, I do think it needs a little extra AP to make it a stronger item for champions who cannot use the spellblade proc very effectively. But it doesn't really need as much AP as Magus because it's a stronger item in the early and mid game already.
NorthernDruid1 votesIt needs a minimum of 60 AP. Anything less than that just isn't worth much.
extremely low AP is one of the reasons why Ardent Cencer is so underused.
LilxPaprika1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/xZAL3M6.jpgjpg
Guys please check out this post i made: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EAsdAMg8-runeglaive-and-jungle-items-solution
let me know what you think
The runeglaive icon might have a wand/staff thats a bit more ornate looking to help differentiate the two.
The 1600 gold portion would be sellable at discount or no penalty cost. Such that you can switch it whenever you deem it necessary. Just keep in mind you won't clear as well or have extra gold per camp however, so do so come a time whenyou would be able to clear fine with late game items and might find yourself with ample gold, especially since around the 40 min mark things are more centered around big objectives/team fights which is where the bulk of your gold will come from at this point.
Oops forgot to switch out 
with 
DJ Di01 votesWhy not instead of the AP buff the ratio? Imo they don't give it 60-80 AP because they want the aoe damge to be later-game oriented like most mages are. Maybe if they bump up the ratio slightly it'll help?
NullDragon1 votesI like how cheap it is. But even more buffs to AP ezreal would be amazing.