Kayn buffs on the PBE

TheGreatNinx·7/25/2017, 5:29:44 AM·2 votes·953 views

We are giving my boi Kayn a buff already which is good, this should help out assassin Kayn but I'm not 100% sold this was the solution to the problem.

In my head this is what needed to happen. Q damage base damage increased to 90/100/130/150/175 from 55/75/95/115/135 if Assassin Kayn form was picked. Keep Base Kayn and Rhaast q unchanged and have it actually apply armor pin properly for all forms. Leave W unchanged Leave E uncahnged R same buff as the one coming

And Assassin Kayn should be in a good place. I was thinking maybe increasing the passive percentage but that would be too much

19 Comments

Calabok7/25/2017, 5:38:04 AM2 votes

how about increased AD and AS 130% while in darken and red and black and grey form. Also add tryndameres ult as a passive so he can truly not die. Also add when he's inside someone, he gets to know their deepest secrets in REAL LIFE!

how's that for buffs to an already Overbuffed champ from the start of creation eh?

Karn Bishop7/25/2017, 6:37:17 AM1 votes

out of all the ways to make kayn flow better adding on Q damage is the worst way to go.

Literally just make Q leave behind a shadow to do the ending animation swing for you so you can move he needs that more then anything.

xxxMadLionxxx7/25/2017, 9:43:18 AM1 votes

Honestly Q does good damage if you land it properly. Shadow W doesn't interrupt his movement allowing his to slow his target while getting closer for an auto then Q combo. You need to land both parts of his Q.

Other than that, it's used to allow his to ult if most of your damage miss.

Leaf on Bush7/25/2017, 9:51:27 AM1 votes

Oh ok did your head also mention any reasons why these changes are better or is it just some arbitrary buff idea and it is better because it comes from you?

Jinzo Torrance7/25/2017, 3:48:08 PM1 votes

What the duck? Q has only 4 ranks now and scales like +10/+30/+45 ?

Aptest7/25/2017, 4:09:13 PM1 votes

Great.... :(

honestly no game with kayn in it was fun for me yet. was hoping he'll stay in a bad state and riot will have left him for the players to figure out.

blah.

Anomander7/25/2017, 5:25:42 PM1 votes

Umbral Trespass (R) AD ratio increased from 110% to 150%

Just for clarity the above is currently on the Pbe.

While I do think that Shadow form really needs a buff we must also be VERY careful about any buff it gets as it does have a built multiplier.

You are talking about adding 40 damage to his q which hits twice so actually 80 damage total to a ability. That is HUGE esp combined with the 25% passive bonus. That is literally a additional 100 damage just to his q...... This is way too much of a buff.

Honestly I don't even think he needs a damage buff in shadow form. What the major difference between his two forms is utility. While i do not want his shadowform to have the cc and sustain of his other form we could give him utility in a small range buff to his q. This would give him better engage/escape in shadowform without a change to damage.

The small range buff would fit the theme of the shadowform and still provide counterplay.

Tohob7/25/2017, 5:34:33 AM1 votes

i was thinking maybe increase the dash range on Q for shadow assassin but yea w/e

Kloqdq7/25/2017, 5:26:39 PM1 votes

I doubt they will change anything about his Q since if they did change something they would want to change something about Darkin as well. Though it could work out still.

SA - no delay and increased distance Darkin - No idea