Person 1 ends up dying. Still pushes the tower Person 1 continues to feed Person 1: Thanks for the ganks jg... ffs.
Just a quick reminder for everyone, NOBODY CAN GANK YOU WHEN YOU ARE PUSHED UP TO THE ENEMY TOWER.
Thank you.
Aeszarck10 votesI guess that would be a good time to counterjungle though, or solo Dragon if you can.
Eri Ayase8 votesAmumu and Sejuani and Naut jungle would like to beg to differ about not being able to gank under turret.
Hello I am Bird3 votesWell, you got me there ;)
In general, even tanks can't towerdive in the early game
GULAG 4 U1 votesaatrox can but we all know how good is he, isn't it!?
MunchCrunchLunch1 votes[{quoted}](name=Rowena Ravenclaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xo7Roama,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-11T00:54:10.845+0000)
Amumu and Sejuani and Naut jungle would like to beg to differ about not being able to gank under turret.
not at any point where it matters. after a while its too late to go under turret when they too fed and can 1v2 anyway.
Friendly Ram1 votesyou forgot graggy and malzahar.
xWaters2 votesNo mention of Zac :P?
Malicious Metal1 votesWell, Nautilus is THE holy Diver. He'll get away, always.
Earl Eulrich3 votesthat´s just wrong, early on in the game all of them lack the ability to escape fast from underneath the turret and once they got enough gear to ignore the turret the problem will not longer matter...the best divers during the first 10min by far are lee and elise.
DunkinNoobs8 votesYou actually can. Counterganks are the absolute best kind of ganks.
Spoofghoul2 votesThough its difficult to predict sometimes where their jungler will gank when all 3 lanes are pushed
thats why you go counterjungle if you encounter their jungler you can get help first because your laners already pushed in the wave making it easier for them to come to your aid before his laners
if you don't encounter him you know which part of the map he is on too so the closest lane to their jungler can then back off a bit.
Meanwhile you can always be close to at least 1 and sometimes 2 lanes to countergank :)
whensmarvel1 votesThis depends on the jungler/laner as some champs are really good at skirmishes and some aren't
Baby Ghoul3 votesYes jungler masters.
I really wish you guys would get off your high horses and stop making the same threads.
Do any of us seriously fault the jungler when someone doesn't get a gank because they pushed up to the turret? Chances are that same person would blame teammates for just about everything.
I've had teammates complain about others having no map awareness, then ignore 10 pings that 4 champions are coming their way through a warded route. I've had teammates complain about not enough vision, then I look at the map, see all my wards and pinks up, and see nothing from anybody else.
This kind of stuff happens. You're never going to convince that player that they were in the wrong. That also doesn't make you a selfless victim. Junglers have an insane abillity to carry in this game. It's a really popular role for a reason.
Secondly pressure counts. In the right environment you can dive, even as a squishier champion. Getting them to burn a flash is a big deal, even if you don't get a kill. You can also provide pressure by just pushing towers with teammates. You can go counter jungle. There's tons of things you can do besides just sitting in your jungle farming while waiting for a lane to be pushed in or arguing with a tilted player looking for a scapegoat.
As a support main I can tell you, we all gotta deal with jerks. Junglers aren't special.
Hello I am Bird1 votesThere are still a few people who do not understand this.
Also, I don't jungle... like ever.
I just experienced this in a recent match in which I was mid lane and bot lane complained about the jungler not ganking despite being pushed up to the enemy tower.
Sire Hippington3 votesMost toptier junglers can easily go for an 2vs1 dive past 6 if your laner has atleast some damage on the opponent, ofc pnly if you know the opposing jungler isn't nearby. And else, that's the time for counterjungleing and placeing deep wards, setting up counterganks or calling a dragon/herald. THe main fault of most junglers, especially in lower elos, is that they seem to think that there is only afk farm or gank, while the most important job of a jungler is keeping track of the opposing jungler and either get crossmap plays/objectives, or be ready for a countergank. I know that this often has a backlash if laners don't cooperate, but a jungler should ALWAYS do one of two things: Either creat map preasure, either by ganks or objectives(forceing an opponent out of lane to take the tower or atleast deal alot damage to it is perfectly valid), or you try to deny the map pressure of the opposing laner by counterjungleing and placeing deepwards to keep track of his moves and ideally set up counterganks or dettering him from ganking pushed lanes in other ways.
Ofc the guys that just mindlessly push and then call for ganks are beyond help, but i really often see junglers complain while afk farming their own jungle instead of useing the mappresure created by their laners.
Handy Sandy 2 votesAttack the tower with them so it will be harder for both of you to die if the enemy jungler decides to gank both of you, and the tower will be down faster giving you the bonus 400 gold or getting one step closer to the nexus on that lane. Then the laner can go help another lane while you continue jungling.
Champion Skin2 votes
disagrees he is a real man and does not care about any of these tower thingies
Larry2 votesyou can lane gank through bushes meep meep "flies away"
TequilaZombie1 votesIt takes so much goddamn time that it's usually not worth it.
Pika Fox2 votesYou can gank (towerdive), or if you feel stronger than the enemy jungler you can assume he will be around that lane and go for them.
GULAG 4 U1 votesTank junglers can dive, but otherwise NO.
Gary B Enkelis1 votesI mean maybe you or whoever could ward or try to countergank? :D
ScissorsNstuff1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hello I am Bird,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xo7Roama,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-11T00:51:46.445+0000)
Just a quick reminder for everyone, NOBODY CAN GANK YOU WHEN YOU ARE PUSHED UP TO THE ENEMY TOWER.
The enemy can.... kek
Dengeden1 votesYou can ward out the enemy jungler and countergank when you've pinpointed his position. You can go to the brushes at the edge of the sidelanes and hope your team is smart enough to let the wave push back or bait by walking into CC.
AutoFillMeDaddy1 votesyou can lane gank if they ward their brush with a pink. Sorry but certain champs will just outpush others; learn to play with them or continue to blame your team, your choice.
Hello I am Bird1 votesI'm just saying that if you're going to push up to the enemy tower, don't complain when I pick a squishy champ and can't gank for you because I can't dive.
Revali1 votesyou can create a towerdive scenario if he got damage ( and depending on your champ) but otherwise yeah
that person is just being dumb.
Darkslayer851 votes
TyroneWatermelon1 votesRammus
B00B001 votesdepends on who you are playing but;
elise kindred zac volibear shaco
are just some of the few that can bank under a turret very successfully, also depends on your laner of course.
but in this circumstance press /ignore and counter jungle, find where there jungle isn't and use that to plan your counter gank, or objective push.