Today I learned that Mana Gating is a 'minor gameplay issue'

You rank up her heal and then make the mistake of actually using it.

Actually I only missed . Note that I said "I've personally run OOM on in the last two months" and not "people can easily run OOM on." I have gone OOM on those other 3 though, it's just been a long time since I played them. :p

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ok kids, League has been out 5 years, MMO's 20 years, learn to fucking manage your mana already

It isn't mana management that's the problem, its the fact that other champs don't have to manage.

-ish with his free ult

If they all had the same system from the start and as each other and those systems were good and do I really need to go on? Should I start a conversation about managing my mana AND my burning embers? Or how about just how mana was last season?

1/10 for getting me to respond to your crappy bait.

If a champion is designed to spam a spell all the time to be on par with the champions who don't need to they shouldn't go OOM doing so. In their ideal mana usage situations almost no champion goes OOM. But games are filled with the unideal in the form of fights, harassment from the enemy, and objective taking.

Sivir can run out of mana DESPITE her shield. Also if you miss time her shield even once or they just don't try to hit you with spells she OOMs VERY easily. Someone please do the math and see how many times she has to cast her Q at lvl 3 to OOM assuming she blocks just one spell with her shield at lvl 1 rank on both spells.

In combat and with just that spell of course. But that's Eve's design. I don't personally count that as 'spamming spells' because you're not doing it wrong or wastefully. But yeah it's spamming in a more literal sense. Still she's expected to spam Q and it OOMs her very easy. Rito plz fix! :D

As a long-time Alistar player (he was one of the main reasons I got to Gold in S4), I need to drive this point home:

Your E is SUPPOSED to be a terrible heal, in the sense that it's not supposed to heal YOU a huge amount. We're not talking Soraka's Wish, or Nidalee's bullshit heal, or anything else like that, because those are single-target heals.

Alistar's heal is ludicrous because it heals every single ally nearby you for the same amount, and can be spammed as long as enemies are dying near him. This makes it invaluable for minion pushes; you can get a whole cannon wave up to a turret at full health with Alistar, making the turret drop very quickly. It's also fantastic during the mid-late game because you can keep your allies constantly healed as you fight for objectives.

If you level E first on Ali, you're not playing him right. You should also prioritize at least one mana / regen item for him, whether it be Frozen Heart, Righteous Glory, or Mikael's Crucible.

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I'm going to give my opinion about those I play in that list. Ziggs definitely needs some love in the mana department. Considering he's designed around spamming his Q, it's egregious how quickly he goes OOM.

http://i.imgur.com/1wUXtQ8.png People like you give me trust issues.

Not that you said I did but... note I didn't say I play them all well or correctly. Just that I OOMed without spamming. Of course spamming spells or not is largely a matter of opinion. Most of what you said is good advice and/or correct in my opinion but I do feel some have it a little worse than you make it out to be.

In general supports just OOM early on so easily. Your adc wants you to have 'lane presence' yet still wants a full rotation of spells from you when they get caught out or start a fight they shouldn't. And they NEVER look at your mana before making a decision.

Or you're the adc and your support creates no presence with his positioning OR spells and you're left using spells too often to fend off the enemy team. Also last hitting with just autos is harder to get good at on the east coast. :(

The issue with most of the champions you listed is that until/unless you buy a sapphire crystal their mana pool is miniscule. 400g shouldn't nearly double your mana pool ever, let alone at lvl 5 and % base mana regen obviously does little to nothing early on. Sadly there's no flat regen support item, hence we're stuck taking mana regen runes.

A few specifics: Thresh OOMs from throwing hooks decently often. Cho OOMs period, even after catalyst it's incredibly easy. Alistar I agree with the person below about his heal, don't spam that for you or your adc. Yeah I need to stop trying to harass with Q as Kayle. Sion only gets by mana wise because he almost always starts flask. Ziggs is fine, you just can't use his E to help wave clear like last season.

People keep using this phrase "manage your mana" like it just makes the problem go away. If you sit there and use all of Sion's abilities just to clear waves then yeah, you're going to OOM pretty fast.

But that's not the problem. The problem is fighting the enemy champion. When they can kill you with 40% of their mana pool in 3 seconds and you can't kill them with 130% of your mana pool (thanks to say a crystalline flask) over 15 seconds something seems a bit off. It's even worse when you try to do something like lane vs Gnar. You have to use mana to farm from a distance or else you just die for nothing. If you use it REALLY well you can delay your death for a while but still die and not even pressure the Gnar. Most likely you just back early and lose cs and xp and he gets even harder to deal with. Meanwhile Gnar is spamming his boomerang every 11 seconds at lvl 1 alone and gets REWARDED for it. By champion lvl 5 it's a 8.25 second cd and just keeps dropping until it's 4 seconds at lvl 16. And no, it's not that hard to catch the boomerang.

itemization. In theory.

Kat doesn't want to build flask or ring and doesn't build morello's, but aside from that the non-mana items are pretty damn powerful.

Actually its not free. Can you imagine if Kata had mana costs. She would probably the weakest mid laner early, even worst than (ap) . Note that i'm talking about mana-damage efficiency early. . So, if she were to get mana costs, she would have to be buffed. Do you really want that to happen?

Whenever I used to play Yasuo, I thought I was playing Tekken on a moba. XD What are cooldowns? Yasuo will never know. After he builds BC/Ghostblade (or lucidity, both are viable) then he has like...no wait time. XD

Passive: walk/dash/blink Q: 1.33 W: I think I stopped it at like 10 seconds or something lol E: 0.5 R: 17 seconds.

Dem cooldowns doh.