I think if you look through my boards history you'll find I'm very pro-DynamicQ, though I don't have anything against the concept of SoloQ and DynamicQ working side by side. I want that up here as a disclaimer since I strongly dissagree with many points brought up and want to challenge them where applicable.
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Beyond dynamic q being extremly unfair for solo player , killing all the individual skill and rewards , killing everything thats competitive , being a systeme so easily abusable . **Its not about long q times and unbalanced matchamking , its more than that **.
I think the biggest thing a lot of people assume is that because it can happen, it is happening. And in a game where people always seem to look for ways to lose (at least in lower ranks), another reason to go on tilt can have a huge impact on how games turn out.
Having said that, statistics do make it possible that there is someone out there who has been put with a premade four every time they queue, and it's a fair point to not discredit the people playing SoloQ with four teammates in a premade. It can happen, but there's absolutely no evidence to say it is beyond the 3% that's being recorded.
To address the point made, I argue that there is nothing about DynamicQ that is killing anything in League that SoloQ can't do worse.
If DynamicQ killed individual skill, how is it that so many people haven't become instantly boosted into Gold now that they have their "free ticket" out of bronze using premades?
If there are S3 and S4 Master rank players that can SoloQ through ranked, there's no reason to blame the system, regardless of the same players lamenting the loss of SoloQ.
From all the games I've played, I think I can confidently say that the system is near impossible to fool.
If I'm with a premade 3, I'm normally with put on a team with another premade 2.
If I'm against a premdae team of 5, it's not because I've SoloQueued and suddenly have more (un)luck than required to win the lottery, but because I, myself, have four other friends in my lobby.
i just want a solo q ladder , because i am a solo player who want to play in a solo environnement with solo players against solo players . To get to a elo wich will represent MY skilll .
This is an arguable point, I do agree that seperate ladders would be a thought to dwell on.
It's a concept that I feel is the most likely for Riot to consider, but the counterpoint is to what effect it would have on Dynamic-
As DynamicQ would become the new Team Ranked 5v5's, And I welcome any arguments against that, as I do hope that were SoloQ to come back that it would see more use than exclusively premades.
the only way you can have a correct value of someone individual skill is with the traditional solo q systeme .
I find this an incredibly simple way of looking at Dynamic-
If you think that Dyrus or QT don't deserve their rank because sometimes they play in a premade 4, then by all means, feel free to use that same mentality on lower ranked players.
Just because X summoner is GoldV and was only SilverIII last year doesn't mean he's not worthy of that level of recognition.
At the end of the day, if he wasn't up to the standard of play, he wouldn't survive at that rank.
But actually , its fcked up for both sides , because you forced solo players to play in systeme designed for premades .
It's designed with both groups in mind, otherwise it would literally still be Team Ranked 5v5- and if you ever played Team Ranked, that's a whole nother level of League compared to DynamicQ
And thats why the lack of solo q will damage the game .
THIS GAME CANT BE BALANCED AND COMPETITIVE WITHOUT A LADDER FOR PREMADES AND A LADDER FOR SOLO PLAYERS
And this is unquestionable riot .
The biggest damage control DynamicQ has to handle is the mentality and psychology of tilting, especially, but not exclusively, for no reason.
Examples include:
-Coordinated ganks against your team
-Failed ganks from your team
-Singular bad plays or average plays in succession
-Not ending laning phase as a 12/0/1 god.
-Having the entire enemy team collapse on you during laning phase and instantly thinking the other team is premade
But riot , you told me : If you are a solo player , then dont play at all , just fck u .
I must have missed this memo from Riot
Everybody from bronze to challenger want solo q to be back even Lcs players and coachs talked about that .
It's a topic of discussion, not something that absolutely must happen.
There are pro's and con's to both systems, and I personally am glad that Riot are trying to figure out the problems before retiring Dynamic.
If at the end of the day, it doesn't fit with the game, then by all means, retire the queue.
It's not a prefect system, and no one is trying to say it is, but I don't think that there's a way to say that "SoloQ is absolutely 100% better in every way" without discrediting some major benefits that Dynamic Q can bring to the table.
One day , league will join Wow and the others forgotten games in the trash .
And the main reason will be the decision to not bring back solo q.
Very brash assumption, but I guess only time will tell.
