Duskblade stats vs price

5ome White Guy·2/10/2016, 1:52:49 PM·3 votes·990 views

How is it even remotely fair for duskblade to give 75 ad, 10 armor pen, and cost less than other 75 ad items.

that means assassins can itemize before carries, and actually makes it impossible to play against them as an adc. Then assassins get free kills and are immediately way ahead. until 4 items in (or so)

12 Comments

Illiad2/10/2016, 1:55:43 PM2 votes

It is because...........................................oh...you are right. whoops. nevermind i support this message [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

legionnaire992/10/2016, 2:07:33 PM2 votes

it cose 3250 i think?

Madra2/10/2016, 2:38:58 PM2 votes

They need to take the passive movespeed off of DoD. Then it would be fair at 3250. Assassins already get the active on ghostblade.

Spoofghoul2/10/2016, 4:21:14 PM1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Meep Man2/10/2016, 4:35:43 PM1 votes

That's because Duskblade has a 2 minute cool down that you can't entirely control when it happens (you kind of can but not really), and so majority of the time it will just be giving you 75 AD and 10 Armor Penetration. Every 2 minutes, you get a 25% missing health nuke on your basic attack, great.

Meanwhile Bloodthirster gives you a passive HUGE shield and 20% life steal, much better than 10 Armor Pen. Death's Dance gives 15% physical spell vamp and makes you take pseudo-reduced damage (15%). Also gives 10% CDR. Ravenous has a powerful passive for wave clear and team fight damage PLUS a huge boost to burst damage in it's active (and pushing). Not to mention it gives more stats in general. Mercurai has one of the most powerful actives in the game. End of discussion, not mentioning its other stats.

5ome White Guy2/10/2016, 2:53:48 PM1 votes

i couldnt disagree more with those points^ @ Fjiordor

ProfDrDeath2/10/2016, 3:48:38 PM1 votes

Duskblade Gold Efficiency: 99.15%, with a powerful passive.

item 3074 : 96.43%, but has power in its active and passive.

item 3812 : Between 99.64% and 111.43% gold efficiency, average power in the passive.

item 3139 : 98.1%, active is REALLY powerful (on a level with Zhonya's, at least).

item 3072 : 91.22% without the shield, 116.44% with the shield.

Overall, I'd say Duskblade's gold efficiency is very comparable to the other 75 AD items.

Fjiordor2/10/2016, 1:57:04 PM1 votes

Because the other 75 ad item gives you 20% perrcent lifesteal?? And a creazy shielding passive witout any CD?

Weathered2/10/2016, 2:00:41 PM1 votes

Riot already said that tuning will most likely happen, but they need live server stats to be sure. The main goal was to give predictability to how assassins will itemize and play, and since a lot of assassins will now have to play around that auto, you can counter play accordingly by kiting and CC. Sure their are exceptions that this would be hard (like Zed's ultimate giving him guaranteed aa range), but specific changes and other tweaks are bound to happen.