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Can we tone down damage and make league require skill again?

Morgana Deus·11/5/2019, 8:39:26 AM·196 votes·25,025 views

I'm starting to get really fucking bored being one shot by things like a 1/4 malphite because he built one item and you gave his ult 100% ap scaling.

Why is a tank a better mage than all the mages? He has some of the highest ap scalings in the game. Can somebody explain this degenerate shit to me?

Oh, Morgana is a 50% ban because she stops you from being one shot by nonsense like this. But the champions that just one tap you aren't an issue?

Yawn. Boring.

Can we please tone the fucking damage down. If I'm 4/0 in lane the game shouldn't be over if the enemy team picks a champion like malphite who has a slight lead. How the fuck is that fun for anyone?

I'm just really sick and tired of this call of duty overwatch trash the game has become.

Every single match is about picking burst damage and hook champions. Oh you got cced once? You're dead! Land one hook? You're dead. Land one bind? You're dead. Yawn. Boring.

Oh, but once again Morgana is overpowered because she lets you actually play the game. You mean there's a champion that actually provides counter play against being oblitered in under a second any time you get cced or have a champion like malphite in your game? Nope that's not fun! I enjoy being killed instantly with no counter play.

JuSt FlaSh The Ult ThaT has < 1 min CoolDown 3head!

Just never get hit by cc 5head!

225 Comments

Aryan MasterRage11/5/2019, 11:23:12 AM61 votes

There are two problems.

1st, runes. All runes pretty much add damage. Even defensive runes are something like "prevent some damage and deal some damage" like Grasp. We should have pure defensive runes too.

2nd, defensive items suck. Items like Dead man's plate and Sunfire have been nerfed to oblivion. Everyone buys stuff like stopwatch instead, because stasis helps much more than overpriced tank stats. I don't see anyone building e.g. Randuins anymore, because the cost-effectiveness is just crap. Pretty much all defensive items should have their stats increased by 10-20%.

JustDonnyy11/5/2019, 8:55:53 AM40 votes

Malphite Rengar Khazix Zed

What Damage?

Charmy Bird11/5/2019, 10:55:55 AM32 votes

There are so many op Champs rn with high winrate pick rate and ban rate but God forbid touching them because our game won't be the 15 min fast paced game we want.

ClaireRedfield11/5/2019, 1:50:42 PM23 votes

How long have you even played this game? Aside from updating Malphites W to function correctly he's been the exact same champion since season 1...he's always been able to oneshot squishys when he builds ap. He was never a problem in the past and he's not a problem currently the meta has just shifted to allow such a playstyle to become viable.

~~Morgana only has a 4.8% ban rate no one is banning her. ~~

Back in the day if a carry went 4-0 in lane the game was 100% over they would scale to hypercarry levels and crubstomp anyone near them. Now if someone goes 4-0 but your mid is feeding the game just might be a loss as individual agency is a relic of the past.

Every match has always been about balancing CC and burst/dps nothing new nothing special.

Quit crying about shit that's far better these days than it used to be.

Sucction11/5/2019, 2:51:37 PM18 votes

I do agree, and also do agree AP Malphite is aids, but the 100% ult scaling has been there for years.

His ult doesn't deal any more damage now than he has in the past. He might even deal less, due to base mr going up on every champ.

Cynosis11/5/2019, 5:24:21 PM18 votes

I just came back after a long Hiatus, what in the #$% is this game? Its who can delete who first now. Definitely not the league i originally started with (was here at the beginning) But this isn't even enjoyable anymore.

Flashy Rock Paper Scissors now. thats all.

frackphoneverifi11/5/2019, 11:37:05 AM17 votes

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I'm just really sick and tired of this call of duty overwatch trash the game has become

years ago a great many people wanted faster less coinflip games. as for some reason those 40-60 min even matched back and forth games were to long.

so over the years riot made changes..

more gold,more exp,more damage,more mobility,less point and click skills. nerfed stall tactics/waveclear,weaker towers,more impact via weak teammate vs strong. and early objectives that give so much power that create massive snowballs. was the only way riot could think of to give people what they wanted.fast games less comebacks.

this is what the people wanted! right? fast and decisive super competitive flashy game.

thing is a fast decisive competitive game and fun games are often times polar opposites..

but now that the short flashy games are here, it will stay like this forever... its what china wants

RtClick11/5/2019, 4:21:08 PM12 votes

Yeah I'm pretty tired of the "on shot before they one shot you" meta. I decided to build tank Volibear top last night because we had alot of damage on our team already, (Yasuo, master Yi, Kaisa, velkoz). I was actually amazed how squishy I was in team fights when I engaged, and how little front lining I could actually do for my team.

I say Facts11/6/2019, 1:17:02 AM11 votes

You know what I personally like the most? season 1-4 They were never 1 shotting, everyone had enough roam to survive. And the tanks were building full tanks because the tank Items were so useful back then Now the tank items are disgustingly boring flat defense only, and none of us like that Therefore, all they need to do is decreasing the damage of the game and adding more tank items

Metal Janna11/5/2019, 4:12:45 PM10 votes

Just never get hit by CC ######that we balanced around faker's dodging skills on korean internet###### This is why pros should be playing a different game entirely.

NTrumpWeTrust11/5/2019, 11:47:23 PM10 votes

leona hook dead leona ult dead thresh hook dead naut hook dead blitz hook dead pyke hook dead ahri charm dead morg bind dead neeko root dead Rakan ult dead rakan knock up dead Fizz ult dead Zed exists dead

Phew, finally got a defensive item for all this CC! Oh wait the enemy has ie + rapidfire and takes 1/3rd of my HP in an auto

Game sucks and bot lane has become a total bore. The niche of disengages has been totally obliterated. Why would I pick a reactionary support like Janna or Nami who are VERY squishy when I can just pick a tank support that can win games off a single random hook that involves 0 risk? Short answer, I wouldn't.

Say what you want about fiddlesticks and how lame his fear is, but he's one of the better supports at dealing with this constant aggression from engage supports because he's one of the few who can actually stop their follow-ups. But of course he's getting moved out of the support role so we're stuck with the likes of yumi and an upcoming ADC support (?) that seems useless for those of us who actually want to support.

Game is fucked and Riot doesn't care as long as they can pump out these cringe pop star/music skins

Hayaishi211/5/2019, 3:43:51 PM7 votes

CDR needs to be nerfed too. We have every class except marksman and tanks building a bunch of CDR. (Bruisers mages assassins) contributing to making the game more fast paced.

M Dragon1411/6/2019, 2:24:46 AM7 votes

No, their Chinese overlords want the game to be easy to make more $$$$. The moment they sold to Tencent I knew this game was fucked.

Fabton11/5/2019, 10:29:15 PM6 votes

Why is a tank a better mage than all the mages? He has some of the highest ap scalings in the game. Can somebody explain this degenerate shit to me?

just saying if you count his ap ratio's together hes on the lower end of the ap scalings compared to mages, its just how quickly he can put out the damage is the problem. honestly look into alot of champs ap ratios for mages you see there alot higher

3TWarrior11/5/2019, 2:31:31 PM6 votes

technically morgana's ban rate is high because she counters just about all of the current meta stuff

Pyke is first and foremost on the list as her ban rate climbed to 30% just from him existing

Zullar11/6/2019, 9:00:21 PM5 votes

...but flashy esports need high damage... so all players must suffer.

IronyAndSublime11/5/2019, 5:19:41 PM5 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j34LxFRWjs Talon "P a t h e t i c"