When Would I Build Dark Seal And Poacher's Dirk?

ItsMaybelline·11/16/2017, 4:53:11 AM·2 votes·502 views

I'm trying to expand my knowledge of items. I saw someone playing my main (Evelynn) and running a dark seal, which i've never done before. Also, why don't they ever upgrade it to Meija's?

Another item that caught my eye is Poacher's Dirk. What champs/roles build this and in what situations?

15 Comments

TheFallenShaw11/16/2017, 4:54:41 AM2 votes

None, it has a camp cd on it. If you were playing a heavy invading jug and the cd was removed it might actually be viable.

invisiblecat111/16/2017, 4:56:49 AM2 votes

Poacher's dirk should only been thought of as a purchase if the enemy jungler is AFK, and you need it for an item, otherwise never buy it Dark Seal is something taken by champions for the 25% bonus healing from potions, but a few champions, like LeBlanc or Katarina will take it with refillable, sell it later if they don't do too great, and build it into mejais if they get the early kills they need

SuperCosmicHobo11/16/2017, 5:13:51 AM1 votes

Quick large Jg kills will give you benefits. Better for late game when nobody cares for jg as much. Dark seal is for pot sustaining literally.

Quepha11/16/2017, 5:21:43 AM1 votes

Dark Seal is a good early game item bought first or second back when you're also running potions of some kind, usually corrupting pot, for extra sustain and power. As an added benefit it can also grant you AP if you start getting kills so it can be nice if you expect to get ahead.

Poacher's Dirk is good on AD assassin champions who plan to do a lot of jungle invades.

BlackFlux11/16/2017, 5:43:18 AM1 votes

well item 3252 is taken when you are a fast clear champion who can safely invade or can speed things up with summoner 11 to compensate. maybe like Nocturne Hecarim Khazix Kayn(mainly for raptors on kayn) though I would NOT do that with a champion like Graves Gragas JarvanIV around,who have more kill potential then let's say an Ivern Amumu Fiddlesticks and item 1082 is taken for 2 reasons IMO A:to stack it for AP in a lane you know you can safely get kills in or can sorta abuse their kit to use(Karthus being a main offender...) SOMETIMES turned into item 3041,but it is such a feast or famine item,and unreliable as you lose up to 50 AP and the movement bonus turning it into what is basically a 1400G item 1052 and B:sustain. one of the passives is 25% more healing from potions. which is not unique so you can stack the things,some people (Karthus ...I do him sometimes) grab item 1082 item 2031 rather then something like item 1056 item 2003 as they have some other way to get mana,or don't need it Swain Katarina sometimes Kassadin so rather then getting the last hit passive they go for HP healing. an odd case of this is Singed. as he gets CS with his Q so he goes behind the enemy turret and CS..es. there where no minions can take it. and with all that damage he get's one,two upwards to THREE item 1082's for 25%-75% more healing,some AP and mana. which makes for a lot if you have item 2031 with two 125 charges or item 2033 with three. the goal being to sustain the hit's to get guaranteed CS but also not be 10 HP when somebody tries to get you