Riot, you need to factor pre and post-match chat into toxicity and punishments. Here is why.

My ADC Abuses Me·7/12/2015, 2:49:51 AM·172 votes·11,772 views

Behold my recent normals game. Our Ahri stole our jungler's first camp, flashed to lane, fed 6 kills in a row to Ezreal in 10 minutes, then disconnected, all without saying a word.

That's not the issue, Ahri will face justice with the tribunal.

But the Ezreal, as you can see, explicitly abuses the fact that Riot doesn't punish anything for what chat happens after the game and starts throwing around insults like "faggots" and brags about beating an intentional feeder.

He shows his extreme toxicity but he'll never be punished unless you change this backwards policy. Please punish players who troll champ select or insult in the end game screen while pretending to be good players in game.

172 Comments

Trídent7/12/2015, 3:15:48 AM36 votes

I thought Lyte said they could see... ;-;

EDIT: Yep, they can see.

Akesgeroth7/12/2015, 7:16:14 AM24 votes

Personally, I was about to buy Tahm Kench but then, after a match, I got a "You were verbally abusive" message. I was likely reported by the 0/10 Xin who had been trolling us the whole time. Now I don't feel like buying RP because who wants to spend money on a game they might no longer be allowed to play because the people in charge automate the process in a way which favors trolls?

xJLx MCHammer7/12/2015, 2:52:20 AM11 votes

+1 for awareness

I'll say smart toxic players save their hateful words after the game is done. The idiots who stay though as just as dumb

I guess that's why they don't count. Post game, there is no expectations of you to stay there, you are doing it for selfish reasons.

But pregame chat should be able to be seen

FatesDefiler7/12/2015, 3:04:29 AM10 votes

was playing aram against a ryze, fiddles, karthus, thresh, and teemo. i was laughing pretty hard at how badly we were being abused. i typed into team chat, mostly to console my teammates during the process of this horrific whooping we were recieving:

'wow, they pretty much have the perfect aram team'.

my ally urgot replies:

'quit complaining, their team isn't that great'

I replied:

'not complaining, they have a few of the highest dps champs in the game, plus teemo'.

after the game when we get to the lobby he says:

'qq more bbygirl'

and I see the notification that i've just been reported pop up on my screen. what choice do I have at that point but to report him back? i'm honestly afraid to play this game pvp anymore. i get this kind of people about every other game and they usually choose me as their target and I've got the ban counts to prove it. Riot's playerbase moderation system leaves a lot to be desired.

Deep Terror Nami7/12/2015, 6:14:07 AM7 votes

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4538478&page=79#post47334546

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3377247&page=23#post37118092

A whole lot of ignorance in this thread. It has been said several times (links provided) that the chat is visible to Riot and taken into account for reports. You are all believing in the myth that originated from the Tribunal, because pre/post-game chat was not given to them for review.

Yonahga7/12/2015, 4:43:20 AM6 votes

I think they need to change the fact that most people getting banned by their excessive verbal abuse policy are the people who get mad and frustrated at feeders, trolls, and other such undesirables while the trolls and such walk away unscathed because trolling isn't bannable unless they are toxic in the chat during the game (in which any normal person uses the Mute button, which makes the entire in game ban policy make no damn sense whatsoever, but Riot isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack even if they are the only bulb in the pack).

Tomatosx7/12/2015, 11:24:57 AM5 votes

Oh no, a 0/19 xin that refuses to communicate, and does nothing but die. Can I ask him to not feed anymore? Nope!! TOXIC Do I have to give him royal treatment because trolls rule LoL? YEP!!!!!!

Flemman7/12/2015, 12:04:55 PM5 votes

chat log pre and post game are already being checked, only troll tells you it's not because they live in their own world with no consequences from their behaviour :p

The Whamboozler7/12/2015, 4:22:20 PM5 votes

There aren't any factors into bans. It's a freaking bot that does it.

Saianna7/12/2015, 7:56:22 AM4 votes

That's not the issue, Ahri will face justice with the tribunal.

That is, once Riot will reenable tribunal again. I wouldn't hope for too much.

Malicious Fury7/13/2015, 4:23:27 AM3 votes

Why so many upvotes? He's asking for something that's clearly been said by Riot that already happens. It's been said more than once... It's been known for years.

FantasySniper7/12/2015, 4:05:33 AM3 votes

I thought they did.

Daxterr7/12/2015, 2:37:42 PM2 votes

Well it's good to know that rito checks all the chat logs. What would help our peace of mind even more is if we got a pop up that says "you got someone banned! " or "you got someone chat restricted". This would not only give people peace of mind that the serious cases of harassment are punished, it would dissuade people from reporting for stupid things.

If someone reported their team mates for things like "this noob he doesn't even know how to play tahm kench what a noob god damn" they would get no recognition from rito. This way some people will stop being so toxic, or at least not send as many dumb reports.

Ratchet Fortune7/12/2015, 11:30:05 AM2 votes

came here to say I love your name

lol

Kapstein7/12/2015, 5:49:50 PM2 votes

Ezreal name name is Koi Dog

Ahri name is KingofChinawtr

Thanks me later.

ZeroshiYaSoYoLo7/12/2015, 9:57:51 AM2 votes

I know who to blame for all of this issue, it's Riot's fault. The end.