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My thoughts on Ryze 6.3 changes.

Fat Bastard GOD··4 votes·1,458 views

First off, I am a Ryze fanatic. I love Ryze a whole bunch with his spell slinging and swagger pirate dance moves. I love his playstyle and insane damage potential. He is probably my favorite champion as of now (sorry Nasus and Mordekaiser). Ryze has some serious issues, such as his perma snaring and insane snowballing. However, as of patch 6.3, things have changed for him.Ryze now has a cap to his spell rampaging.

Capping Ryze's spell slinging is a great step to attempt to balance him. However, his limit in chaining (5 spells) is a tremendous restriction. Ryze is supposed to be a consistent DPS mage. The five spell CD cap does not make him a consistent DPS mage, and now he feels bursty, which really sucks. Thanks to this, Ryze's identity as a DPS mage is lost. Ryze is supposed to obliterate the opposition to dust in teamfights due to his massive damaging AoE DPS. As of now, Ryze is much, MUCH weaker. Ryze can no longer destroy objectives. Thanks to his old DPS, he could solo dragon, and baron fast. Now, he cannot, because he cannot cast nearly as many spells. Ryze is not the duelist he was. Ryze used to crush his foes thanks to his almost endless spell slinging, but as of now, he cannot duel like a monster. This also stinks. ALOT.

Ryze feels bad The Ryze cap feel like a cockblock. Its like listening to your favorite song, getting to the climax and stopping mid-way. It literally feels like being that fat kid who runs mid-way to the finish line and falls over gasping for air. Ryze has lost his idenity for being an immobile, consistent DPS mage and duelist, for a burst mage.

Conclusion Ryze feels very, VERY restricted now due to his chaining cap. The ult CD compensation wasn't needed and seems to add more problems to Ryze. Putting a cap on his passive is a great idea to balance him out, but the cap being flat isn't great at all. I think that a scaling cap (5/6/7) would be fantastic. His lategame is awful, due to the cap. I can't wait to see what changes you guys have in store for Ryze in the mere future. These changes stop Ryze's level 6 snowballing and unfair 100-0 almost anyone that tried to stand in his path. Lets just hope Ryze doesn't go into the path of Cassiopeia.

Sincerely, a Ryze main.

12 Comments

Fun Fest3 votes

The Ryze changes are a big slap in the face to anyone who took the time to master Ryze, since the changes were intended to greatly reduce his skill cap. I wish they had buffed the way new players play Ryze rather than nerfing the way experienced players play Ryze...

Danjeng

They lowered Ryze's ult cd though, which could be used to get more stacks. Most of the difficulty in Ryze isn't spamming spells, it's the buildup to his passive which requires skill and understanding of the game. So I think skill cap goes up with a much shorter passive. However, I understand that the spell cast cap will also reduce the potential of higher skilled players such as yourself.

I was so happy to see him in the patches... until I read it. I think Riot ought to reverse the nerfs from 5.14 to compensate for this massive nerf. Otherwise I expect his win rate will remain 40%.

Didn't you make a Ryze montage? Loved the Morde snare at the end. But I cannot do it in 6.3 with 5 spell cast cap :(

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ2 votes

Ryze: "Why Riot??? Why????"

Spicy Rice2 votes

Honestly man, i get how you feel, but you also have to realize how every who plays against ryze feels.

He is the only champion that i honestly feel i cant outplay except by being as far away as possible when his passive goes off. The only way to kill him was to gangbang him to oblivion, and even then, you risked losing 1-2 people in the fight.

For sure, the change they did for him was excessive and really destructive, but i feel like they went in the right direction, just a bit too far.

As for a potential change. How about increasing the cap on the spells for every ult level he has.

So 5-15-25-35 spells. With 5-10-20-30 secs before the passive ends. This way, he doesnt have as much early fame dominance, but his lategame is preserved.

SirHeavyScrotum1 votes

Those numbers look a little off but I like the direction you're thinking.

Spicy Rice1 votes

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Those numbers look a little off but I like the direction you're thinking.

Yeah, as a non-ryze player, i wasnt too sure about the numbers, sobi felt l9ke i should be generous so as to overcome my own bias

ZephyrDrake1 votes

Ryze welcome to the Urgot/Yorick tier

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

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Ryze welcome to the Urgot/Yorick tier

Plz no :(

Cerared1 votes

I am also a dedicated Ryze main. This patch has completely destroyed the entertainment of League of Legends for me. I don't know if I will be able to continue the game if these changes are not reverted. I feel that these the nerfs are being taken in the complete wrong direction.

Lying From You1 votes

Sorry for my english

I'm a Ryze main and I totally agree with you. That nerf is probably the worst thing that could have happened . I have literally lost the feel of playing Ryze because It doesn't feel the same at It was before the patch . He's not anymore the Steroid Caster I liked.

I'd rather Ryze lose half of his damage than having a spell cap ..

R.I.P Ryze.

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

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Sorry for my english

I'm a Ryze main and I totally agree with you. That nerf is probably the worst thing that could have happened . I have literally lost the feel of playing Ryze because It doesn't feel the same at It was before the patch . He's not anymore the Steroid Caster I liked.

I'd rather Ryze lose half of his damage than having a spell cap ..

R.I.P Ryze.

I would definately take half the damage for the chaining, but he would still perma root and probably scale terribly against MR. I hope Riot considers raising the cap or he will be trash tier. I think the reason they plugged him in 6.3 is because he was "a big enough issue" as in being stupidly broken. I'll admit it, he is quite broken from my experience. Lvl 6 all-in cheese isn't fair at all.

Lying From You1 votes

I mean they can always like nerf all the damage of every spell Ryze has and boost his early game stats like hp/mr and bring back the good old way of Tanky Ryze from season 2 Or make Ryze less influenced with the Ap and more with the Mana

About the Rune Prison I have no idea maybe they could just make it last less longer and Buff Spell Flux so it can be worth to up over Rune Prison

There's plenty of better option than the Spell Cap in my opinion but w/e I'm sure at 100 % they might Buff Ryze in the few next patch.. but if that Spell Cap stay like it is right now I doubt I will play Ryze again..

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