So is there like a delay in Malzahar's R suppression or what? It always happens later than it should

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When going up against a Riven , whenever I click my R onto her just as she uses her E, but BEFORE she uses her W (stun), I see my laser hit her, and her W's animation goes off anyways even though I was supposedly staring her down during her E's animation. The result? I get stunned and my R goes on cooldown and she begins to do to Malzahar what melee champions to do him and Brand . Same goes for other champions with disruption abilities, their CC will always go off even if I had my R hit them before they can use it.

And in that same vein, I also get a lot of instances where I use my R on my opponent while they're still on my W, but for some reason the opponent always moves just outside of my W's AoE before they stop moving for real, even though I was already R-ing them while still atop my W.

So what's up with that.** Is there like an unmentioned delay before the suppression from his R take place or what?**

If there is a delay that happens before an opponent even gets suppressed........then why wasn't it mentioned in any Champion Spotlight or Tooltips?!?! You want Malzahar players to not be even rare than a Shiny Clefairy? Then inform players of nitty gritty intricacies with their kits that would repeatedly save their lives! If there isn't a delay before the suppression, then...........................................this may be a very commonly occurring Malz glitch that's been around for a long time.

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Dig Dux1 votes

yes there is a .5-.75s delay in missle speed and animation time from the time you start the ability. Keep in mind it is a projectile so there is some missile speed, the animation is also heinously long.

so yeah, people can unsuppress themselves if you are not careful and they have good ping.

Just make sure to ult after they stun you or before: a really safe option if you see the riven dive you is to drop a pool at your feet, flash and ult, so you avoid the potential stun and get in a better position.

A great QL change would be to make it go on a 5s cooldown if you can't start your ult like caitlyn does instead of the full cooldown.

One benefit of this is that you can force people to burn their flash if they flash away from you as you are ulting them (similar to garen) You get the kill and burn their flash.

This is ultimately a gameplay bug but likely won't get fixed since it is rather general and part of the underlying game physics, making it difficult to fix.

It lets Riot sneak a little extra power into his kit in terms of his ap ratios and prevents him from being used in competitive play.

5G8Nri0B541 votes

Oh SON OF A BITCH this stupid forum created two of my Malzahar post for some reason!

Anyways thanks for confirming it atleast. I always assumed it was like Brand's Conflagrate or Kayle's ranged auto-attacks. As in it's instant. But turns out it has both a long cast animation AND a missile speed despite being what it is....

Good job on the readability there Riot!

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