This new item of yours is kinda disgusting...

VasilisGreen·2/10/2016, 9:18:24 AM·141 votes·7,422 views

So, i am a zed main. Not exeptional, not by a longshot. I'd say decent. Well.. i played some games since the patch came out... and...

I 've never felt so shitty for playing my favourite champion. i legitimately felt bad for winning, i was disgusted with myself. I felt like i had an unfair advantage over them.... Like, what is this...

Riot, please... Reconsider...

I will admit, i finally felt like an assassin once more since the last whisper change but.. that.. it's too much... It's ok to oneshot squishy mids or marksmen or some top lane champions like fiora, top yasuo, tryndamere, that are also squishy... but oneshoting a shyvana with 4k HP at 30 mins??? that is ridiculous. that never happened even with the old last whisper... At least back then i oneshoted the people i was supposed to oneshot... So, before i see zed permabanned and nerfed to the ground... change it's passive and make it a %armor pen for all armor, about 30%, less than the old last whisper but just as much as the cleaver's shred at max stacks. This way, assassins can kill carries and squishies even in late game, as they are meant to but they will not delete tanks as well. Tanks are meant to soak up damage, not be instakilled. 30% is enough so that combined with the massive flat values, you will do the damage you should do to squishies and also you will not delete tanks because you are not meant to, since 30% is not enough to take out a tank that stacks armor. Also, make it melee only so that the op new marksmen can't use it.

This new item is completely unfair to play against.

Sincerely, a Zed main.

EDIT: Since third party sites like op.gg do not display the item on my builds and because someone here whom i will not name, accuses me of lying about even building it, here is my match history from Leage's site itself http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUN1/205394817

206 Comments

IRFodder2/10/2016, 10:09:30 AM24 votes

From what I read in this game assassins are supposed to delete squishies, so why do they need % misssing health damage and % pen in the first place? That just screams tank killer on all levels. Unless what I have been reading is bs and assassins are meant to kill whatever they want on the map?

please explain.

WinBoat2/10/2016, 10:41:27 AM19 votes

Yay... We all finally get a Zed nerf we been asking for. His R has took a hit.

Oh but wait... For compensation with that of a new item which makes his damage output even more strong.

GlockHammer2/10/2016, 12:30:22 PM10 votes

All according to plan... Remove 5% dmg amp on ult, supplement with an item than pumps up ult effectives by more than 25%. Cause balance.

GlockHammer2/10/2016, 5:15:41 PM9 votes

I find this whole season and the current beaten path Riot is walking on utterly disgusting and not likely to end well.

PixTron2/10/2016, 9:46:29 PM9 votes

Well, as long as Riot is happy with fapping to their E-Sports porn, they're not gonna change anything.

V1CTIS2/10/2016, 8:47:42 PM7 votes

Lmfao.. no it isn't. Expensive AF and 120 sec CD.

SuicideJ2/11/2016, 5:10:23 PM6 votes

What is this? An assassin that is intelligent and logical and cares about the healthiness of the game? I think hell just froze over..

Kudos good sir!

Spoofghoul2/10/2016, 4:41:42 PM6 votes

Makes black cleaver sound horrible item on Zed but it's not

every application of physical damage applies additional shredding

so if you happen to buy a botrk you apply 2 shreds with every auto attack so going in landing 2 auto's and 2 abilities reduces an opponents armor by 30% if you then have the ghostblade duskblade and arpen runes and masteries you get a whopping 30% + 57 armorpen

At this point you can use the botrk active which is followed up by duskblade passive which is followed up by deathmark

thats your combo + 10% max hp + 25% missing hp + 45% of all damage dealth at 57 to 30% and 57 armorpen that kills anything including tanks.

That is all the damage you ever need to kill anything at any point in the game with a spare itemslot left so you can build a zhonyas just for the lulz

complete bonkers

Hoodwink2/10/2016, 6:01:51 PM5 votes

Riot said somewhere else (this is slightly paraphrased):

"Assassins are meant to kill their targets before the passive procs."

Zero Skill Tank2/10/2016, 9:24:54 AM4 votes

But now you finally have a way to deal with his extreme energy problems m8

The Deckowner2/10/2016, 6:44:14 PM4 votes

the fact that dis item has an active effect that works about the same as a champion ability is bullshit. no item active should eb able to deal hundreds of hp dmg on its own.

Leu072/10/2016, 9:59:51 PM4 votes

But dah LC$ Big plays faker dude, and Dah Zed skins gotta sell too dude! also the Yasuo skins! there's a super new one coming! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

sp4412/11/2016, 12:34:44 AM3 votes

I have an even better question: Why is it ok for AD Assassins to have a damage amp, but AP Assassins had to lose Deathfire Grasp? They seem functionally the same thing to me.

Oh yeah, right, it's because those filthy Mage untersmensch were starting to think outside their station in life.

AlwaysByMySide2/11/2016, 12:42:16 AM2 votes

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So, i am a zed main. Not exeptional, not by a longshot. I'd say decent. Well.. i played some games since the patch came out... and...

I 've never felt so shitty for playing my favourite champion. i legitimately felt bad for winning, i was disgusted with myself. I felt like i had an unfair advantage over them.... Like, what is this...

Riot, please... Reconsider...

I will admit, i finally felt like an assassin once more since the last whisper change but.. that.. it's too much... It's ok to oneshot squishy mids or marksmen or some top lane champions like fiora, top yasuo, tryndamere, that are also squishy... but oneshoting a shyvana with 4k HP at 30 mins??? that is ridiculous. that never happened even with the old last whisper... At least back then i oneshoted the people i was supposed to oneshot... So, before i see zed permabanned and nerfed to the ground... change it's passive and make it a %armor pen for all armor, about 30%, less than the old last whisper but just as much as the cleaver's shred at max stacks. This way, assassins can kill carries and squishies even in late game, as they are meant to but they will not delete tanks as well. Tanks are meant to soak up damage, not be instakilled. 30% is enough so that combined with the massive flat values, you will do the damage you should do to squishies and also you will not delete tanks because you are not meant to, since 30% is not enough to take out a tank that stacks armor. Also, make it melee only so that the op new marksmen can't use it.

This new item is completely unfair to play against.

Sincerely, a Zed main.

Link the Shyvana game.

Josheheh2/11/2016, 2:39:59 AM2 votes

I just played against a riven who rushed it first item - now admittedly a snowballing riven can build well nigh anything and win, but she was oneshotting me (mundo) in 1 rotation - it just feels dirty

PhantomGG2/11/2016, 9:35:52 PM2 votes

I really don't see the problem here

Laisenberg2/10/2016, 5:55:23 PM2 votes

you are disgusting, a zed main

VesperNadal2/11/2016, 12:38:53 PM2 votes

Guess I know who to spend my 6300 ip on now.

A Chaotic Mind2/10/2016, 1:10:47 PM2 votes

I love how they said in the pre-season: we don't want AD assassin to burst down tank so lw is now bonus armor. And then release a %max HP AD assassin item

CarameI Frappe2/11/2016, 8:57:49 AM1 votes

Shyvana 4k health and you instant killed her ..??!

Riot what the hell man. Why do you hate tanks so much and make assassins capable of this nonsense ...?