I never thought Jayce was skillessly op until...

Zelnick··3 votes·5,720 views

He missed two abilities on me and still did 100% of my health from max health in less than 2 seconds without being fed. He MISSED what should have been the biggest chunk of his dmg and still two-shot me, that's proof he needs a rework or a nerf.

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ZephyrDrake2 votes

who were you? what were his items? what were your items? what was your lvl and what was his lvl? what skills did he use? it's very easy for me to complain about someone doing 99999999999% of my HP in 0.000000001 second but leave out every single little detail that would actually make it true. Gives us something other than "X champion 100-0 me in 2 seconds after missing some skills" that does not work like that since Jayce has way more skills and we don't even have a clue about who you were even playing as

Dynikus2 votes

the only recent game I see of yours on op.gg where the enemy team had Jayce was a game where he ended 13/8/1 with over 8 csm, while you were 1/8/11 with under 6 csm. He built full damage and you were sivir. He was 2-3 levels and 1-2.5k gold ahead of you. Why are you surprised he could do a lot of damage? unless you're referring to a different game that wasn't recorded on op.gg?

Zelnick1 votes

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the only recent game I see of yours on op.gg where the enemy team had Jayce was a game where he ended 13/8/1 with over 8 csm, while you were 1/8/11 with under 6 csm. He built full damage and you were sivir. He was 2-3 levels and 1-2.5k gold ahead of you. Why are you surprised he could do a lot of damage? unless you're referring to a different game that wasn't recorded on op.gg?

He was only 3/2 at the time and even so only 2-3 levels isn't enough base damage to compensate, he did 100%, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of my health with two abilities after MISSING his HIGHEST damage ability combo. Not even full ap blitz or a fed zed does that much damage, both of them need to land all their abilities and a basic to anihilate someone, but not jayce apparently.

Sniper 02 votes

Do you not know how AD burst casters work?

Zelnick1 votes

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Do you not know how AD burst casters work?

Do you now know how op works? A fed zed at least has to use at least 3 abilities and a basic to do NEAR that damage, jayce only does it with two.

Sniper 02 votes

.... adc gets burst down by a well built burst caster... crazy I know. https://media.giphy.com/media/GfAD7Bl016Gfm/giphy.gif

SanctusEquitem861 votes

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Dynikus3 votes

Jayce had almost a full item and several levels over you. You were a squishy adc.

Not even full ap blitz does that much damage and ap blitz is much harder to pull off.

what even is this argument?

Sniper 01 votes

Hmmm only support you could really try back this argument up with is Zyra (epitome of damage supports) but she can do that with two damage items so... xD

Zed with full items and a level lead flattens adcs without spamming skills and a much better escape tactic than Jayce so...

Zelnick1 votes

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Jayce had almost a full item and several levels over you. You were a squishy adc.

what even is this argument?

Doesn't matter if he's a full item ahead if he's only 3/2 and doesn't need to land anything remotely resembling a combo to deal massive damage, therefore proving he doesn't require skill to do more damage than a fed zed therefore proving he needs a nerf. I've played against jayce at least 100 times, I've played as jayce, I've played as zed, I've played kat, I've played brand, veigar, I've played leblanc, I've played fizz, played yasuo, I've played all the high damage assassins and mages and after 2000-3000 games, jayce is by far the most skilless champion I've ever seen and I've always had a problem with him, no one else in the entire game does that much damage that easily, at least not without landing a proper combo or getting SUPER ULTRA MEGA fed like 10/0 fed, not veigar, not cass, not zed, not leblanc, not kha, not rengar, not yasuo, not talon, no one, and that's why you usually see me defending yas and lb and fizz players here.

Chalizard1 votes

It's nearly impossible he needs at least large farm to do so and you have to be really squishy still Not sure if that could be. I agree that he gained unecessary buffs and might be too strong now but he have lot of disadventages.

  • He is squishy so damage based champion can kill him as fast as he can.
  • Strong CC and he is dead.
  • He loses much of his power in late game as in teamfights he can only poke because jump in with your Hammer equals certain death as their team will blow you.
  • Your team has to adjust to you as picked on mid jayce make toper to take something ap, and picked on top leaves team without engage and tank.
  • He is Glasscannon, he has only damage.

I used to main him but after Worlds it is pointless, he became too popular and I hope he will get nerf kinda because he might be annoying 1 vs 1 unless you are irelia but mostly to make those lcs Kids stop playing him.

Zelnick1 votes

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It's nearly impossible

"nearly" doesn't do it justice.

Chalizard1 votes

He needed at least some kills and good farm and you had to play squishy champ to kill you without Q in Cannon form. Remember that he has also good animation reset fast aa with his W so I guess that Hammer Q and some AAs plus R buff can be enaugh to kill squishy target.

Zelnick1 votes

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He needed at least some kills and good farm and you had to play squishy champ to kill you without Q in Cannon form. Remember that he has also good animation reset fast aa with his W so I guess that Hammer Q and some AAs plus R buff can be enaugh to kill squishy target.

He definitely didn't get multiple AAs off.

Chalizard1 votes

He can make one invisibible aa with his E maybe it was this and still he is Glasscannon and you were adc.

Zelnick1 votes

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He can make one invisibible aa with his E maybe it was this and still he is Glasscannon and you were adc.

He's definitely not glass I got multiple aa's on him with enhanced attack speed AND multiple turret hits AND another ad ability, he was maybe half health by the time he point-and-click two-shot me.

Chalizard2 votes

You were adc based on team and teamfights, does this surprise you?

josunganji1 votes

It doesn't matter if he was 3-2, you were doing badly in farm and exp that's why he burst you in two skills. Any burst champ with 2 level difference and 1 and a half item difference can 2skill shot(+auto) you. He wasn't doing fantastic. You were doing bad.

Zelnick1 votes

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It doesn't matter if he was 3-2, you were doing badly in farm and exp that's why he burst you in two skills. Any burst champ with 2 level difference and 1 and a half item difference can 2skill shot(+auto) you. He wasn't doing fantastic. You were doing bad.

So...Jayce was actually an adc and not top or mid, the roles he's in 99% of the time?

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