Ravenous Hunter/Gunblade. The Same but different?

DW Diana··2 votes·2,166 views

Gunblade: Unique: Heal 15% of all damage dealt. This is 33% as effective for Area of Effect damage.

Ravenous Hunter: Heal for 2.5% (+ 2.5% per Bounty Hunter stack) of the damage dealt by your abilities. This is 1 third as effective on area of effect damage.

Ok so I'll start by saying I understand the difference between ALL damage, and damage done by your abilities. I'll also save people the trouble of pointing out you need to stack it before you gain 15%.

Right, with that out of the way, why doesn't ravenous hunt, FULLY stacked, heal as much as Gunblade even on single target abilities?

This came up while playing my electrocute Malz, I took revenous hunter and got it stacked quite quickly (8 minutes 42 seconds) thanks to some nice roams and a bad gank from their jg. at the end of the game I found i'd healed a megre 4.5k in 35 minutes.

I thought it was odd so went into the next game with inginious hunter, built my normal first 3 (rylais, liandries, serephs) and then a gunblade. In the remaining 7 minutes of the game I healed 13k damage.

I've tried this out with some friends in a custom using malzahar. I press E with gunblade, and i press e with a fully stacked ravenous hunter. In theory the fact I killed them all to get the full stacks should mean that ravenous hunter comes out on top because of the healing gained while stacking it, or at least even if you can't heal when you've taken no damage. Instead what we saw was gunblade healed for a three times more than revenous hunter did off one Malefic Visions. Also please note that Ravenous Hunter does apply healing from on hit effects like Liandry's, again I checked for this.

Can someone please explain this?

8 Comments

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Interesting.

I often use it on Ahri with Gunblade, and I've never noticed this before.

DW Diana1 votes

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Interesting.

I often use it on Ahri with Gunblade, and I've never noticed this before.

Same, it's why i thought of using it on Malz. Its the same for Diana too. Ravenous heals far less then gunblade on her Q... so strange,

MrHaZeYo1 votes

It might just be a bug.

Also why would Rav heal off Liandyrs? It's not a ability of yours.

On Malz it could also consider the DoT as only the primary upfront damage towards the heal and the rest as not. Idk.

DW Diana1 votes

Maybe.

I don't know, but it does. I havent tried it with lichbane so I don't know it's all on hits. It might just be a weird one off like Malz voidlings proccing rylais but not liandries.

Neither says anything about DOT damage, just AOE.

AnataBakka1 votes

they shouldn't heal less

Madsin251 votes

Just tested.

Works fine.

DW Diana1 votes

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Just tested.

Works fine.

Strange, it didn't for me. Did you use that account or a different one?

5050BS1 votes

Ravenous Hunter is part of the problem with ADC right now. They get +12.5% LifeSteal on everything on top of items.

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