Ekko feels too weak in damage; I need help?

Choo6·4/24/2016, 1:25:12 AM·4 votes·4,367 views

I love playing full AP Ekko, but it feels like I can never kill somebody with most of my skills (except ult).

My main buildpath is 2 dorans --> Morellicon --> Sorcerer's boots --> Luden's Echo --> Lich Bane --> Deathcap Even with this full AP build it barely leaves them 5-10% hp. Any advance tips, particularly from other ekko mains?

I also heard that riot didn't make him an assasin, but a "skirmisher"? If that's the case, how do I play as a skirmisher? It may help explain why Ekko does weak damage with his combos.

33 Comments

Austinodood4/24/2016, 3:10:44 AM4 votes

Ekko is kind of a sustained damage assassin. You generally won't have enough damage to 100-0 with one combo. But you can do that damage, get out, and do it again. He's very mobile and his kit allows him to use his combo multiple times in one teamfight. The only time you should be focusing on 100-0ing with a combo is if you see your ult landing on them.

BattleOoze4/24/2016, 1:49:30 AM2 votes

Ap Ekko is very good imho. I think Ekko needs to have Rod of Ages for many reasons. Since he is an ap that must be in melee range to do damage, getting that extra hp and sustain early is important. I usually get 2 dorans too, but you shouldnt buy 2 unless you are trying to dominate your lane hard, and as early as possible. That build seems solid, I'd build item 3027 , item 3165 , item 3020 as staple items. Now after that you might want to pick up item 3001 vs ap mid, or item 3157 vs an ad mid. item 3285 and item 3100 are good pickups, I'd say lichbane for the 10% cd and movement speed, oh and the burst of course. Then I'd get item 3135 . If you feel like you don't like item 3027 then get item 3089 instead. That is what I'd do. So when I get blue buff I'd have 40% cd, and hell you could run 10% cd flat or scaling runes if you want to get that cd cap easier.

Woook3r4/24/2016, 1:57:47 AM2 votes

Well, ekko does not have the dmg to delete ppl from 100-0 UNLESS

Its sona you are trying to delete AND you got fed while also rushing item 3001 item 3100 item 3020 If you can get these two items before lvl 10-12 then yea you can basically delete ppl for the whole game, but you wont have time to build cdr if you want to keep that dmg up.

If you want to play ekko with a cdr build, you have to get really good at being disruptive and u need a team that can keep up a little bit and capitalize. U basically try to force ppl out of position by using your q to zone and stuff. Works well when your team has some pressure to add onto yours. Then someone on your team can land an ability and you rinse repeat until eventually the enemy is so disorganized u can go for a full q e combo.

Advice:

Try to learn your passive's cooldown, if you go cdr build. U will probably do better if you can start proccing it more than once on the same target. Q E back off Q E ulti. That kills tanks.

Also, build item 3135 .

Also, try to use your speed to "go off screen". Sometimes I have to qe a tank like maokai to get a fight started in my teams favor. My team follows up on that powerful slow from my passive and while they do that I go really far away and then circle back around. The enemy will probably forget about you for a second because they cant see you. That helps them do something stupid like focus a tank. Then, before you know it, your cooldowns are back up and you are ready to w q e the adc. Pretend to be a air to surface fighter plane. U go in and fuck shit up then fly away. Then you come back and do it again when they arent ready.

U can use the fact that you do a lot, but not a whole lot of dmg to your advantage. U dont do enough dmg that they arent willing to fight. U do do enough dmg that u can fuck them up. U just have to do it a couple of times He is a time winder man. Gotta run that shit back and do it all again.

Also, think about who you really want to get fed. Its probably your top laner or jungler. not the adc. So gank the top laner a little.

Grashnim4/24/2016, 1:26:00 AM2 votes

The one solution is "Tank Ekko".

Gunpoint4/24/2016, 4:32:11 AM2 votes

These are the core items you need item 3100 item 3285 item 3157 . The rest is really situational but those items you should consistently buy. The absolute key is passive procs with multiple rotations of spells and autos to utilize your W passive. People will say that a "utility assassin" can not exist because giving an assassin too many tools is toxic. How they manage to balance this utility on Ekko is by giving him very useful tools like his ult and his W to outsmart opponents and cause havoc without having totally ridiculous damage that Assassins tend to have. There is a way however to compensate for Ekko's less than stellar ap ratios on his Q/E etc. and that is item 3285 item 3100 . Zhonyas is just a given because the active is too valuable especially on Ekko. Edit: Also you are going to want Thunderlords as it increases your burst the most and can be procced each time you go in for a rotation.

Brujahbr4/24/2016, 6:26:05 AM2 votes

magic pen mastery path into thunderlords>

dorans>fiendish codex>morello>luden>rabadon>zhonyas>void>??? depends

EpicMusic4/24/2016, 4:20:14 AM2 votes

item 3020 item 3100 item 3001 item 3165 item 3157 item 3089 that's what i usually build. 100-0 almost all the time.

Nekusen4/24/2016, 3:42:34 AM1 votes

Ekko is a tank, building him full AP makes no sense.

Xelnex4/24/2016, 4:40:47 AM1 votes

Wrong build path,
i would say get rid of those dorans ring, dont build morellicon, start with item 3100 if you wanna poke and go agro, or item 3001 if you wanna play defensively, these should be your opening items, rest are situational.