Kindred got nerfed because they would clear the jungle too quickly and still have high hp

10% lifesteal,spellvamp and a shield takes 0 damage

The worst part about Graves being able to do that is whenever I get one on my team he is like almost dead at level 2 feelsbadman

Up voted for using they.

etc also can lol I actually have seen a graves take 0 damage from jungle buffs

Except Grave's playstyle doesn't revolve around invading your jungle, and taking your camps. If you don't lose health farming your camps, it is too easy to steal camps.

Kindred were also nerfed because as a late game champion, their early game was simply too good and she could still dish out tons of damage and scale without completing hunts

Stop taking things out of context just for some meaningless upvotes

On one hand, Kindred can't miss. On the other hand, Kindred still had clear weaknesses regardless of how strong they were even in their prime.

On the other hand, you don't hurt Graves. He laughs at your damage. And proceeds to 2-auto you.

love how in gameplay boards u actually need to put /s or people will think you're serious

And you forgot bigger range, more mobility, stronger heals vs champs, % dmg, invincibility ult.

But nah, lets compare 1 very minor detail and ignore the rest of the champion's strength's and weaknesses.

Ok but Kindred was wayyyy worse. Healthy clear wasn't her only problem - a lot of people have healthy clear.

If you jungler often in the times of Nidalee and Kindred you were in for a treat. They could invade you at any point in the game, and if you even looked at them there was a 80% chance they could kill you (and would with ridiculous chase potential)

Also both had RIDICULOUS gank potential. Kindreds 70% fricking slow meant if she showed up into your lane and you weren't under tower - you were dead (2 sec dash CD, can auto you a few times even under tower cuz ranged).

Not only that bu she scaled into the fricking sky with her passive - which you couldn't deny her cause she'd just kill you.

Graves isn't even REMOTELY as oppressive.

got nerfed becuase she would clear the jungle too fast, have low HP, and required voice commutation for the teammate to lane a hard CC on the target before she went is so she could guarantee a spear would connect to guarantee a kill.

get in line...

I thought she got nerfed because coming across her as a melee jungler without a gapcloser and gapcloser meant she'd just faceroll you for a free kill, heck she could even duel most junglers with a gapcloser with her strong kiting. The fact that you'd always encounter her healthy was just more salt on the wound.