Regarding Vision & Warding in Patch 4.21 (Please Read)

Civil Dawn··2 votes·687 views

(Please read everything I wrote before you vote/say I'm stupid and downvote. This means a lot to me, and many other supports.) Thank You! :) As a Support main, providing is something I'm doing constantly. So it would make sense that I would want the easiest access to:

  1. Quickly know how many wards I have down on the map
  2. Quickly know which wards are my 1st, 2nd & 3rd
  3. Quickly be able to take the scuttlecrab for vision without sitting like a duck in the river for a whole minute, getting milimeters off the crab per hit.
  4. Be able to quickly adapt my wards to the constant changing/moving objectives and teamfights without having to go back to base, leaving my team to get engaged 4v5.

I'm not sure if this is a bug, and if it is I understand that stuff happens and I'm not angry :) but, I've noticed that when I mouse over, for example, my sightstone, to see how many wards I have, the quick little 2/3 (or whatever # I have) doesn't come up anymore. This is the same for my trinket, normal wards, and my pink wards. I also don't see numbers appear on the minimap/above wards that tell me which wards I placed first. Basically, this removes clarity, and I respectfully wish these features to be re-added (or fixed if they are bugs :) ) In fact, to add even more clarity, what you could do is put little #/# right above our skillbar to the right or so, whichs saves more time since we wouldn't have to mouse over our wards to check. Maybe this feature only becomes available after purchasing a item 2049 item 2045 ? But yeah, this is much more important to me than most would think. I really hope something can be done :)

For Scuttle.... I feel like it's almost unfair. Supports generally don't have much damage. So killing scuttle is much more dangerous to us because it takes SO long for us to kill it. Since teammates usually just depend on me to ward, they usually won't help me take the scuttle or take it themselves even if I ping/ask politely because OMG NEED MAOR FARM lol. So yeah, I was hoping maybe if we own a Sightone, we do extra damage to Scuttle? Kinda like how Junglers must have smite for extra buffs... This would help supports like me a lot. I just wanna give that vision out ;)

Regarding #4, What I basically mean is, since I strive to have 3/3 + 1/1 wards down at all times during a game, I'm constantly replacing wards for new objectives and position changes. In situations like that, my wards, even when I have a maxed item 2045 go really fast. And with all the new focus on jungle+objective control, it only makes sense for teams to ward more... Why not add 1 or 2 more wards for a item 2045? You can keep item 2049's number the same, sense that's for early game where you don't have as many teamfights. You could increase the cost of the sighttone to balance with the new wards. That way for late game control, it's still worth keeping. (Because I hate selling my sightstone for games that are 40-50 minutes long, because no vision is a bad situation.)

Please consider these. Supporting means a lot to me, and the nerf to warding (making you only be able to place 3 at a time) was hard enough. I almost feel like Riot prefers straight up mages to be bottom, rather than supports who are dedicated to their role. :(

4 Comments

Unbi2 votes

The sighstone bug needs to be fixed, but scuttle-crab is actually supposed to be kind of hard to take. If the support could take it alone, that'd just be too easy. It gives too much ms/vision if it can be taken by just the support.

The Ruby Sightstone suggestion is also a good idea. It does need something to make it worth purchasing.

Civil Dawn2 votes

{quoted} The sighstone bug needs to be fixed, but scuttle-crab is actually supposed to be kind of hard to take. If the support could take it alone, that'd just be too easy. It gives too much ms/vision if it can be taken by just the support.

The Ruby Sightstone suggestion is also a good idea. It does need something to make it worth purchasing.

Well then we need something else to motivate teammates to help supports take scuttle, because I will say "Can somone help me w/ crab" and nobody comes 4/5 times. And I ask this as appropriate times too, not when it's busy and they need to push :)

And thanks for agreeing with my Ruby statement :)

Civil Dawn1 votes

Bump Alistar :)

Civil Dawn1 votes

bump

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