If I Controled Riots Balance Team

Frosted Tips··4 votes·842 views
  1. Remove Phantom Hits
  2. Make Bounties Start at 3 Kills Again
  3. Add New Items to the Game for Tanks and AP Bruisers
  4. Remove Stopwatch
  5. Lower CDR Availability
  6. Remove Zz'rot
  7. Bring Back Banner of Command
  8. Rework Duskblade
  9. Revert Runes Reforged (keep the rune shard stat part, but bring back old masteries and remove runes overall)
  10. Make Mana Management a Thing Again.
  11. Edit:Lower damage (specifically burst)

Anything else you guys would add? Or anything you disagree with?

29 Comments

dragfin122 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X0RHdE6O,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-10T01:57:21.876+0000)

  1. Remove Phantom Hits
  2. Make Bounties Start at 3 Kills Again
  3. Add New Items to the Game for Tanks and AP Bruisers
  4. Remove Stopwatch
  5. Lower CDR Availability
  6. Remove Zz'rot
  7. Bring Back Banner of Command
  8. Rework Duskblade
  9. Revert Runes Reforged (keep the rune shard stat part, but bring back old masteries and remove runes overall)
  10. Make Mana Management a Thing Again.
  11. Edit:Lower damage (specifically burst)

Anything else you guys would add? Or anything you disagree with?

you would make it so you can 1v1 anyone. THE GAME IS BALANCED AROUND TEAM PLAY. BUY A CLUE OR PLAY ANOTHER GAME.

Frosted Tips4 votes

Where did I say that? What part of what I would change would make it less of a team game?

dragfin122 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X0RHdE6O,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-10T02:09:20.470+0000)

Where did I say that? What part of what I would change would make it less of a team game?

it's implied because you don't understand that it's already balanced for team play. Your argument is the same argument that has been argued for 9 seasons because ignorance is rampant in todays gamer environment.

Frosted Tips3 votes

Again where can you point out in my original post that a change I said would make the game more focused on individual play? You have yet to prove your point and just said because you think I am not qualified to speak about game balance that I must be making the game more self oriented and that Riot knows all.

dragfin121 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frosted Tips,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X0RHdE6O,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T03:06:33.244+0000)

Again where can you point out in my original post that a change I said would make the game more focused on individual play? You have yet to prove your point and just said because you think I am not qualified to speak about game balance that I must be making the game more self oriented and that Riot knows all.

Do you even understand the word implied? I guess not. Stop whining.

Frosted Tips3 votes

If you can't even point out a specific part of what I said that would lead you to believe that it may change the game to be less team oriented and you can't even have an arguement with facts then what am I supposed to respond with? Something like, "it is implied that you also have no idea on how to balance a MOBA and so anything you say is completely invalid." I try my best to understand what people say that disagree with me to see if there is a misunderstanding or common ground that can be reached, but obviously that doesn't matter to you. Goodluck having a adult conversation/arguement/exchange in your future, hopefully this opened up your eyes so you can understand how to actually make a point and have evidence so that you are taken seriously.

koshkyra2 votes

12: Stop making every new champion mobile and overloaded.

Frosted Tips3 votes

I mean I would say stop making new champions for atleast a year a rework all of the outdated garbage that exists in the game currently. Bu that usually upsets people when I say it so I didnt add it to the post.

koshkyra2 votes

We wouldn't need to rework the "outdated garbage" if they didn't make them outdated in the first place by making every new champion insanely overloaded.

Like it would take me 15-20 words to describe the features of Pyke's ult but it would take me 2-3 words to describe Annie's ult. That's just a sign that power-creep exists.

Frosted Tips3 votes

See people like you can't see that there are Overloaded kits and there are Overly Simple kits which do not offer enough skill expression and or outplay potential that also cause unhealthy interation. Yes a lot of new champions are overloaded, but a lot of old champions a far too simplistic to a point of just being a stat check champion.

xDogMeatx1 votes

remove on hits/rework yi thats all i say.

Frosted Tips1 votes

I personally don't think all on-hits are bad, but Phantom hits make them unhealthy. To the second statement I 100% agree rework that braindead champion.

xDogMeatx2 votes

i dont mean remove them completely either i mean those cancerous kinds of "lel your a tank so what" kills i want to remove. lower bork damage to 4% and make it unique to it cant be stacked with bloodrazor.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Ah ok that makes more sense.

xDogMeatx1 votes

fun fact: im commenting in your other thread.

Frosted Tips2 votes

Yeah I know and I'm glad to see we have some common thoughts and uncommon thoughts about the game.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

a yes, if I was in charge of the world I would end world hunger, make global peace, make everyone be equal to each other... then reality hits you in the face and you realize that it's way more nuanced than just saying "i'll do this!" and somehow make it happen.

Frosted Tips3 votes

These are for fun dude. Calm down and some of these are super simple and would have very little impact outside of the direct removal. For example Removal of Zz'rot would have very little impact or no impact in 99.9999999999% of the game.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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These are for fun dude. Calm down and some of these are super simple and would have very little impact outside of the direct removal. For example Removal of Zz'rot would have very little impact or no impact in 99.9999999999% of the game.

ok... if this is "for fun" why is it in gameplay and not general or memes and games? also it would affect the game quite a bit. Sorry but you have no idea how much any of these "changes" would impact anything since you have no data whatsoever, no way to actually tell how much any of these changes would affect anything or anything actually meaningful, other than personal bias. I'll ask again, why is this in gameplay if it's supposed to be "for fun"? in fact i'll even add to this... if you were in control of the balance team the game would literally implode within weeks

Frosted Tips3 votes

I mean they are serious concerns for the game, but you are comparing changing a game to changing the world. A game is fun and this is a fun little hypothetical for people to add to. It is serious about what I want to change and what others would like to change, but fun to see what others think and to imagine what each change would do.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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I mean they are serious concerns for the game, but you are comparing changing a game to changing the world. A game is fun and this is a fun little hypothetical for people to add to. It is serious about what I want to change and what others would like to change, but fun to see what others think and to imagine what each change would do.

in other words... there is no actual reason for it to be in gameplay right? it's fun or is it serious? you want to know what people would want as well? everyone to do 0 damage, early game to have literally no impact in the game whatsoever, people to be able to make every single mistake in the book without being punished ever, just a free pass to the late game, somehow having solo carry potential while never having someone in your team be "behind", somehow being able to punish every mistake the enemy does but never have your team be able to be punished, people to literally win even if their nexus explodes. I'm pretty sure I am missing a lot of stuff that people here "want". I want to know these great issues the game has, because Riot has been addressing them but until we reach season 4~5 lvls of "let's have every teamcomp be 2-3 tanks, 1-2 hyperscaling and 0-1 heal/shield bot with everything else being completely worthless and not worth picking" type of meta people won't be happy or satisfied

Sir Saltarin1 votes

Bring Back Banner of Command

TRIGGERED

That cancer is gone for good.

Frosted Tips3 votes

It was completely fine until they buffed the living crap out of it for no reason.

Moody P1 votes

gut mages and enchanters

Moody P1 votes

gut mages gut support item gold gen nerf ambient gold gen buff bruisers delete crit

Game might be good again.

Dope Solo1 votes

If I controlled the balance team, they'd all be looking for new jobs answering phones and they'd be without a reference.

MF is my Waifu1 votes

Can you give Miss Fortune some more sexy skins, too?

Frosted Tips1 votes

That is not apart of the balance teams job sadly.

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