I Miss Original Ryze

Winner Bot·12/21/2017, 3:59:17 PM·2 votes·712 views

Now before you downvote me, yes, I know old Ryze has every point and click ability and its cancerous. I definitely agree with that and Riot had made an effort to remove this cancerous part.

What I miss is his identity as a mage-tank hybrid. Old Ryze is weak early, got some damage powerspike mid game, and transforms into a semi-tank while still dealing above-average amount of damage. His typical build was item 3027 item 3003 item 3020item 3110 item 3001 and Will of the Ancients (RIP)item 3070 . Yes, it includes two to three tank items that gives him mana, where his passive allows him to deal more damage without building AP. Mage-tank hybrid is such a unique role that opens up more possibilities for team comps. People can choose a combination of two off-tanks, rather than a tank plus a bruiser/assassin.

No champion today have replaced or replicated old Ryze's identity. Riot doesn't like semi-tank mage and is killing it by forcing people to choose between being a mage or a tank. Vladimir Vladimir's passive ratios have been changed to make him benefit more from building AP rather than health. Swain achieves this role in a cheap and binary way where his ult either makes him unkillable without even needing to aim, or become absolutely useless with a item 3123. Riot knows theres a problem and therefore he's getting a rework. Galio comes closest to it, but still, his W, E and ult forces him to be a CC peeling machine, rather than the caster off-tank old Ryze used to be.

TLDR, Old Ryze is difficult to balance, but semi-tank mages are disappearing in the game. The role offers more diversification for team comps, it will be good if this role can be re-introduced again.

1 Comments

Lucas Fehrwight12/21/2017, 7:28:48 PM1 votes

gotta disagree.

  1. Ryze's build is still pretty tanky. I mean, he is not a tank but he certainly isnt brand, i mean paper. He also gets a ms boost, making it harder to hit him with skillshots, thus making him more durable.

  2. There was very little interaction with old ryze. All you did was survive till you were strong. At that point, playing ryze was not about having fun and feeling good but about being powerful and feeling good. You cannot morally justify this treament of players.