Riot should stop shaving down the champion pool

D1rtFarmer··3 votes·571 views

You cant take more than 10 champions into a match so why limit the viability... why isnt every champ viable at all stages of play? with 125 champions you would think atleast 50 of them would be used repeatedly instead of the same 20 recycled over and over until you decide to nerf and buff whoever for whatever reason... I want Diana back to mid lane... WHY was she taken out of midlane?

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Sir Yamazuki4 votes

Diana is actually within the top 20 mid lane win rates for plat+, at a little over 51% and 73% of her games are her being picked mid as well with an above average pick rate (5.58%). So, not sure why you think she's been taken out of mid.

D1rtFarmer1 votes

thats in a coordinated team.. and a little luck rollin lanes... if i could be ranked based off the lanes i ACTUALLY play... this would be different... but having to play roles i dont play... has alot to do with the game losing balance.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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thats in a coordinated team.. and a little luck rollin lanes... if i could be ranked based off the lanes i ACTUALLY play... this would be different... but having to play roles i dont play... has alot to do with the game losing balance.

What are you talking about? I was referring to her soloq stats.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Diana is my second go-to mid champion for the past 2 seasons. She really doesn't need any buffs. It'd just make her broken OP and she'd dun gutted next patch more than she deserves.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Part of solo queue rankings is knowing all roles and being and to work with a random team that has random role preferences.

Centuros2 votes

I dunno, why did YOU take her out of midlane?

D1rtFarmer1 votes

i should clarify... i havent play alot this season... they really put a hurt on her last time i checked it... they pulled her out the midlane by nerfing her kill power. <-- by actually experience ... not paper readings

Vistha Kai1 votes

Dude, that was like pre-Season 3. Since then she got about 3 damage buffs and at least 4 QoL changes.

She isn't Zed-pickrate, because she gets dumpstered pre-6. The only way to fix that would be changing her kit to pre-release one where she had Lunar Rush on E and Moonfall was her ult dealing true damage as a channel. Except that'd be broken OP and Riot knew that even back then.

CreationFlaw2 votes

I want Kayle to actually be played... Screw Diana, champions like Kayle and Syndra used to be played quite often, now they're under 2% playrate, and it's depressing. But you're right, it's not good that I can expect what to play against in most of my games.

D1rtFarmer1 votes

i thought syndra was still a beast.. either way.. you see where im going with this.. you know who you're fighting.. cause theres only a handful of solo q champs... diana used to be a solo q pick.. she is still effective as most of the champs are when used in a coordinated team... just solo queue shes lacking carry power...

Marthian1 votes

Kayle understandably isn't seen as much since when she is good, she promotes lack of interaction with her ult. Nothing says screw you like being immune to damage, so doing anything to them is pointless.

KazaLyn Shao2 votes

Diana in mid lane is cool, but what about Kayle even being played in any role at all? Or Gangplank. Or Fiora. Or Tryndamere. Or Swain. There's tons of champions that don't even see use because Riot doesn't care about them.

Genuwhine2 votes

ive seen all of these champions this week and i main kayle with a high win rate lmao where do you low elo players find your logic

KazaLyn Shao2 votes

A high win rate and a 2% play rate. High of 2% is nothing. Wtf are you smoking?

Marthian1 votes

He's smoking the "I know how to play kayle correctly" and play rate has got nothing to do with that. People play lots of low popularity champions and do amazing with them. Poppy has had the highest win rate in high elos on many occasions because of some people playing her well despite people calling her garbage (she isn't really though.)

CreationFlaw1 votes

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ive seen all of these champions this week and i main kayle with a high win rate lmao where do you low elo players find your logic

First of all, even if you're "high elo" (It's fucking MMR now you twat), you play with a much smaller amount of the total league of legends population, so you don't really notice the playrate difference, now do you? The fact is, Kayle and Syndra COMBINED playrates don't even equal 4%, that's pretty bad. Especially when Zed has like 24% playrate, along with Thresh, Lee sin, katarina, and Jinx/Vayne.

Marthian1 votes

There is always going to be champions that are popular and those that aren't. If Jinx/Vayne were to suddenly lose popularity, someone else would be taking their spot for popularity.

EffectFX2 votes

It's almost like game balance is complicated. What a huge surprise!

NoMonku1 votes

Diana does do fine in the mid lane. I say that's the best place for her actually. Her problem is that she gets dumped on by range and has no easy escape mechanic. Once she goes in she stays in, which is why she isn't played often.

Also a reason why all champions aren't viable at all stages in the game is because then all the champions would basically be the same. Your complaint thread would now be "Why can't the champions be more different" instead of "Why can't they all be the same". Also if everything was viable at all stages of the game, the champions with superior abilities late game, the current late game monsters would be taken almost EVERY game. They are weak early to counter their OP status late game.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Diana is actually a solid midlaner. Hard counters Katarina too (poor Talon got replaced).

She is also effective as a jungler.

Marthian1 votes

They didn't take Diana out of mid lane, you just chose not to play her there. The reasons there's those 20 or so common champions is because they are the most reliable. That doesn't mean every other champion cannot exist in the game. I play ADC Miss Fortune despite no one else doing so and I do excellent with her (60%~ win rate and a big contribution to getting to Gold.)

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