Why not remove the Attack Speed from Youmuu's Ghostblade?

TehNACHO··12 votes·3,320 views

I mean, Riot's gone so far as to state that:

Youmuu's Ghostblade fills this ‘core scaling item’ niche for casters and assassins, but also everyone who builds AD due to how much power it brings in raw stats.

And while a flat AD Nerf is a pretty universal nerf to all users of this item, I honestly think that if the goal is to pull it away from everyone that builds AD to just the niche of Casters and Assassins, taking away the Attack Speed would be a more definite way of solidifying its niche. If what Riot said is just the PR to hide that they want to nerf this item as a whole - and we can't blame them, we all should know by now this item is pretty over the top as is - then the general nerf is certainly justifiable. On the other hand though, you're shooting the Casters and the Assassins in the foot harder than, say, Auto Attackers in removing a Flat stat like AD over a % stat like Attack Speed. We already got rid of the Attack Speed from Maw for similar-ish reasons way back when; perhaps it's Youmuu's turn for the same treatment.

8 Comments

The Yetii Rider3 votes

The AS aspect of Youmuu's helps assassins take towers and dragon/Baron.

Considering it's likely the ONLY AS item they will build, it seems pretty important to leave it there.

Zarkkast2 votes

As a Shaco main, all I can say is don't you dare.

BloodyTompon1 votes

I've long thought the same thing. Attack speed is not as useful on AD assassins for the most part. AD, pen and CDR are softly stat bound already. I'd have continued down that path and reduced the attack speed. Nerving the attack speed/ passive nerfs the item in it's entirety too, but the nerf hurts those who rely on auto's more than those who do not. i.e. ranged users (and Rengar).

SlashStriker1 votes

Ghostblade should be split in 2 classes. Assassins and Onhit champions.

Attack speed does not benefit zed and YI needs crits. The item is lackluster and needs changes. You don't need flat armor pen if you deal 250% damage on almost each basic attack

originary911 votes

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Ghostblade should be split in 2 classes. Assassins and Onhit champions.

Attack speed does not benefit zed and YI needs crits. The item is lackluster and needs changes. You don't need flat armor pen if you deal 250% damage on almost each basic attack

Attack Speed does benefit Zed and both AD and Crit scales multiplicatively with attack speed...

Lady Hammerlock3 votes

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Ghostblade should be split in 2 classes. Assassins and Onhit champions.

Attack speed does not benefit zed and YI needs crits. The item is lackluster and needs changes. You don't need flat armor pen if you deal 250% damage on almost each basic attack

It does benefit zeds split pushing

TehNACHO2 votes

Wasn't that considered a problem that even Riot's balance team went "yeah, we should probably tune that back"?

theDeblin1 votes

Or just remove the active entirely and replace it with a more reasonable permanent attack speed stat (10% or so). Physical carries should have to build outside of their optimal stat items for run speed burst and the cooldown is so short as to be completely unreasonable on the run speed portion too.

If they want to build run speed burst make them build Righteous Glory, or another item that has only defensive stats. The extra escape button is a purely defensive/engager effect and should be treated as such.

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