According to Lolalyitics, LeBlanc is currently the #1 champion overall, in terms of win rate% by top players, and average success with her in general.
She is also the #4 most frequently banned champion atm, meaning most players in all elo's find her too overbearing to deal with.
Do you think she needs nerfs?
Please leave your in-game ranking and your personal experience with her if you like.
Let's have a discussion, ty.
Mafia LeBlanc3 votesnerf lb pls
BIackfox3 votesI prefer old lb
DoktorKaiser3 votesShe needs either medium nerf in her numbers OR a very small number nerf and tether range revert because I cant escape that tether even with ezreal E which is pure bullshit. I never had much problem with LB having high damage on the QW because she had 1 major weakness in lane and that was that she couldnt waveclear for shit and you could push her in and go roam or farm jungle or something, but now she has extreme waveclear which eliminates her only lane weakness, the 1 shot is still there yeah there is a 1.5 second delay but you know what - that is same as TF gold card, its hard zoning tool, if you are marked you have to stay back or god forbid she goes in with W (which got old super speed back btw) you will get chunked much harder than old QW, and if she by any chance misses W, her E will double proc it anyway on range higher than flash range. I like her ulti though, in a good players hands it can really confuse you like it should. I also think she is OK when not fed (which is hard not to get her, same problem as Rengar honestly), she isnt that useless and I actually think she is harder to play now, which again doesnt make a good excuse for being bullshit. People say she sucks now late game, but the point is her E range is so freaking long it can literally be used as an engage tool with the amount of safety you get from your W + now you dont have to cast W last to actually use it on R and that is also a HUGE buff to her mechanics because it gives her more freedom to use her skills in whatever order she wants to. All in all she is OP but not gamebreaking and can be fixed by few medium nerfs, nothing huge.
TLDR - she now has isntant waveclear, but keeps her old heavy burst which is even bigger now, with easy way to proc it with E or QW/WQ, the mark also can be used as hard zoning tool even though it takes away her instaburst, so its not enough of a weakness. She seems healthier ,but overtuned a bit, I like her rework in general
Psybicilin2 votesLebalanced
ViiLLAiN2 votesi dont see her getting played that much and when i do i just kill her cuz its not hard
Korillo2 votesI think her early game damage is WAY too high, allowing her to easily get early kills and snowball the game.
RexSaur1 votesLB needs to be gutted shes more broken than syndra right now (and thats saying a lot).
Mafia LeBlanc1 votesLB needs to be gutted shes more broken than syndra right now (and thats saying a lot).
Agree but how?
She should lose the waveclear (Q will only bounce to nearby marked champions), some base dmg on her sigil, and lower ratio from .8 to .7
Also slow W speed to pre-rework. Possibly increase snap back time to .5 instead of .25
This would bring her in check I think.
Avienal1 votes[{quoted}](name=Harriet TubgirI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WlB8ga2m,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-05T01:45:39.025+0000)
Agree but how?
She should lose the waveclear (Q will only bounce to nearby marked champions), some base dmg on her sigil, and lower ratio from .8 to .7
Also slow W speed to pre-rework. Possibly increase snap back time to .5 instead of .25
This would bring her in check I think.
The main part i'd say is the state of her E currently is what needs to get hit first, the fact it procs her passive on top of having 2 instances of detonate damage make it one extremely scumbag bully move for her to combine with her W to pull out insane levels of damage, easily get right next to her opponent and then proceed to simply walk around them till the second root procs, then just jump back since it only takes 1.5 seconds for the 2nd hit and root to proc, 4 seconds for her to easily jump back after casting W. So even if you added 1 second for her to cast the E, she would still have a full 1.5 seconds to easily jump back or soon as the tether would 'detonate' since its range is relatively far.
I would have to say they need to put some extra demand in her using it such as having a decreasing radius as the 'rope tightens' similar to Kled's Q, and of course shorten the tether break so she has to stay close to the enemy champion, though it would definitely be nice if they made CC in any form could interrupt it so Le'blanc could have the notion of the high damage, but she has to take MAJOR risk to pull it off. That or at least make CC could make her W warp back get negated too.
Any champion who gets alot of power, whether its high stats or utility in their kit seriously needs to have proper repercussions such as long cool downs and ways they could be screwed up and not let them pull off shenigans such as assassins playing as tanks. At the very least, pre'rework le'blanc at least felt more like a bully, now the current version feels like she can easily pop right in front of you and shoot you in the face with a shotgun, killing you and easily poof right out of their even though you had 2 team mates surrounding her when she popped right in.
At the very least since her original Q had the detonate damage mark, it was at least restricted by mana costs, taking up an ability slot and its own cool-downs, now that it isn't she can easily repeat combo spam it with her WEW, or Q+WW combo to harass so easily any champion who doesn't have some way to shut down her damage (i'd have to see how Galio could fair against her since Galio 'is' the go to anti-AP champion unless something ruined him).
Having them revert her wave clear back to its original state could be super useful since it would at least keep her to a play style as an assassin and not some mage who is now listed as a slayer/mage. What they really should of did on the passive was make it more towards illusions then having her get her Q's damage bonus instead, they could of instead used it as a modifier mark that similar to how Brand works, would apply different effects based on what triggered it such as:
Q: Would cause the mark to make the Q to bounce some extra hits to nearby 'enemies' so they all got hit by Q's damage. W: Would apply a Slow effect. E: Would make the 'tether' have a larger ranger.
But obviously would still have a cool down tacked on(longer then 5 seconds too likely) so something like a chain combo abuse between W and E isn't pulled off. Le'Blanc gets enough damage in her kit and mastery and itemization, she definitely does not need her 'passive' being her own form of Thunderlords when her kit does not specifically WORK like how a SLAYER should work, Aka being more of 'swift mobile killers' who should avoid direct confrontation, unlike champions like Ahri, Le'blanc seems to have no problem just walking right up to a enemy target and erase them and get away with it.
Which i do not really get with this 'Slayer' category change since i was originally under the impression that 'SLAYERs' were suppose to be the champions oriented towards taking out tanks while 'Assassins' are the champions who target the Squishie ones instead. Course makes you wonder whats the 'new' name category for champions made specifically to take out super beefie champions with relative ease like 
in that regard.
Anyway never the less, Le'blanc just ultimately needs her damage greatly toned down and force her to rely more on opportunistic 'Slaying' then able to do it constantly while her abilities are not on cool down.
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LBmyBB1 votesIn lane her damage is only optimized by your ability to stay out of range. Her old combo is useless because of the time it takes to set up. Increasing her snapback delay would kill her. In the late game, say a .5 delay - WAY to long. Her chain might be able to get nerfed somehow but idk. I hear shes already getting some nerfs coming. Her clones could be smarter tho, thats the 1 buff I would give her atm. Her q's damage to minions could be reduced cuz its like the #1 waveclear atm.
