You seriously can't tell me that this is okay....

BeatzBoyFTW··63 votes·21,627 views

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It still baffles me on why Riot refuses to take any sort of action against this guy, or the fact that Yasuo main warriors constantly defending this champion for God knows why.

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Moonscourge44 votes

It isn't okay and they have acknowledged that a week ago lol

BeatzBoyFTW6 votes

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It isn't okay and they have acknowledged that a week ago lol

Can I have the source of them stating it? I must've missed it.

BeatzBoyFTW7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Abibyama II,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiN6X1s5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-13T11:42:11.732+0000)

https://twitter.com/RiotMapleNectar/status/1095460202067898368?s=09

https://twitter.com/RiotRepertoir/status/1095467222607093760?s=09

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/2uXMU488-quick-gameplay-thoughts-february-8

Ahh, those seems like it hit the mark a little (unlike that dumbass -5 MS nerf). Thanks.

Abibyama II2 votes

It basically a revert to 8.11 hotfix

theChibiTina4 votes

Neeko doesn't need a buff. She's strong, but people don't play her properly. :'(

hrooza dota 1 votes

game says she is easy but i have hard times playing her compared to other mages like lux/vel

[sg-soraka]

ChaosReyn4 votes

Well, in order to use her ult effectively, you have to take a super squishy trickster champ and quite literally drop her on somebody's face. If you try and fail to do that, you're pretty much dead.

That's where a lot of people find issues with her, and why Chibi says nobody plays her correctly. Your ult as Neeko is not an excuse to try and kamikaze into the entire enemy team. It's a counter-dive ultimate. A "Zed is trying to ult me, so I should press R and explode him right as he reappears" ultimate. It's an aggressively defensive ultimate that everyone tries to use improperly by blowing their W and their flash to try and catch a bunch of people who are probably going to just flash out of and take a free kill from.

theChibiTina3 votes

The biggest problem being her w creates a clone which gives her away if she's disguised. And even though they can't see the ult animation when disguised, their thought process should be it's a Neeko and she's trying to dive in then she's probably trying to get off an ult. Then they'll do exactly what you said. :D Although I do want to kind of try something that involves neeko as support to kalista. I want to know what would happen if Neeko ulted and then kalista ulted and threw the ulting neeko at the enemies. Would the ult end once kalista ults or would it still be channeling while kalista is ulting and then go off to soon if you didn't throw neeko fast enough? Or will it break the game because Riot didn't think about this before hand? lol.

hrooza dota 2 votes

now we just need to find a kalista player [sg-lulu]

theChibiTina1 votes

My friend who I make ADC for me says he's not that good of a Kalista player, but is willing to help me test it anyway. XD His prediction is that it will be like with fiddle's ult where it cancels it, but Riot has a history of messing things up so I think there's a chance it could work. We'll find out tonight when he gets on. If it does work then this could be a busted strat until Riot notices and patches it. :)

theChibiTina2 votes

So Kalista ult cancels Neeko ult if Neeko starts ult first, but the Kalista ult and then immediate Neeko ult after is pretty good.

Link to game: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2977936877/244313583?tab=overview

hrooza dota 1 votes

ya its still a great combo even if you did not start first.

now i will pick her supp if i find a random kalista player in my normals (which happen between time and another for some reason)

theChibiTina2 votes

Yeah. Kalista players aren't very common because she's not really meta. She's one of those champs who is kept weak because her kit is really good like Elise.

theChibiTina2 votes

She's not easy. Regardless of what the game says. Because you have to dive the enemies to use her ult and her playstyle revolves around trying to trick the enemy, she is actually a relatively difficult champ to play. She has a unique playstyle that's different from lux or other mages where you don't want to constantly stay in safety in the backline. I'd say she would be more like lissandra where you have to sometimes dive in away from safety to use her to her full capabilities. In team fights you need to have good judgement when you can go in with her ult and play safe like a regular backline mage when her ult is down. By yourself you can use w to run in with your ult if it's a fight you can win or utilize it defensively if you're trying to run away by ulting to stun them and using your w to run away faster while they're stunned.

Moody P2 votes

do we know the trundle buffs

Ozzburne15 votes

??? 51% win rate is op now?

Lol this community

Sir Saltarin17 votes

With his pickrate and considering the champ yes.

Hell champs as Azir or Ryze can be overbearing with a 49% winrate on soloQ.

Anyway, Yasuo is already being nerfed.

AR URF2 votes

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??? 51% win rate is op now?

Lol this community

That's what I was thinking. The hate on these boards are the reason why riot hasn't done anything yet.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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That's what I was thinking. The hate on these boards are the reason why riot hasn't done anything yet.

As usual. Just go ahead & ignore the other stats I've placed there.

AR URF2 votes

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As usual. Just go ahead & ignore the other stats I've placed there.

the 51% win rate? considering how strong crits are, that's not a big deal. Kha has a 8% play rate at 50.24% win rate. does that mean he's op? Of course not. Sona is at 54% win rate, yet no one complains about her?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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the 51% win rate? considering how strong crits are, that's not a big deal. Kha has a 8% play rate at 50.24% win rate. does that mean he's op? Of course not. Sona is at 54% win rate, yet no one complains about her?

Riot stated that Yasuo's already too strong with current crit changes, so nerfs are bound to come. Khazix is almost over average if it weren't for that low banrate, indicating that Kha isn't someone to be such a nuisance to most matches. Sona's the same, except a lot lower.

Ozzburne15 votes

7% ban rate doesnt look right?

Play rate of 6% isn’t anytging either?

Honestly these stats are middling at best y’all are just sour at literally nothing

BeatzBoyFTW14 votes

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7% ban rate doesnt look right?

Play rate of 6% isn’t anytging either?

Honestly these stats are middling at best y’all are just sour at literally nothing

High banrate is one thing. Putting it alongside the fact that he still retains a high pickrate & wildy have an above 50% winrate with those 2 stats says too much.

But of course, I'm talking to an M7 Yasuo, so I can understand your bias perspective.

Salron6 votes

When someone points out the shit site you use has incorrect stats and you go straight to ad hominem

Lol.

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

Of course it's HAS to be a shit site when your favorite champion is getting pissed on.

Like I said. Bias.

JJI7445 votes

Yasuo is much more impactful than you say. 19/61.5/64. (Pick/win/ban)

Champion.gg actually does suck for pick/ban rates.

PopcornBunni3 votes

It lines up perfectly with the other sites but it gets its information from a different statistic. Pick and Ban rate are the % of players picking that champion in that role and the % of players that ban the champion respectively.

In a draft game, even if a champion was in 100% of games in a role, they could only be picked by 50% of the players.

Ban rate is similar, with the highest possible being 20%, meaning 2/10 people every game ban the champion. 10% of players banning still wouldn't be the character banned in 100% of games though, because some of that 10% would overlap as a double ban. It's extremely rare to get a banrate above or even up to 10% though, so the result is that, in effect, multiplying the banrate by 10 translates to the % of games the champion is banned rather than the % of players that ban them.

And what do you know, if you multiply the pickrates by 2 and the ban rates by 10 you get nearly identical results to other stat sites. They aren't wrong stats, they just draw their information from a different source. Just because you can't interpret data doesn't make that data incorrect.

Thefrostyviking10 votes

OP that site you got statistics from seems a bit.....iffy.

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/yasuo

http://www.op.gg/champion/yasuo/statistics/mid

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/

These 3 are all showing nearly the same thing and its a lot above what yours does.

CytheGuy5 votes

I just checked all of your sources against OP's...

League of Graphs reports a 51.5% Winrate in Platinum+ across All Regions in Norms and Ranked

OP.GG reports a 51.62% Winrate in Unknown Ranks across Korea in Unspecified Queue Types

LoLAlytics reports a 51.89% Winrate in Challenger across Unspecified Regions in Unspecified Queue Types

OP's Source:

Champion.GG reports a 51.24% Winrate in Platinum+ across Unspecified Regions in Unspecified Queue Types (Winrate is slightly off from new data 19 hours later

I don't see any major discrepancies between yours and OP's sources.

0 Hogapu8 votes

Your stats must be false. 7.03% banrate ? what is that

SpaghettiVase5 votes

And a 6% playrate in mid. Yeah i call bullshit

PopcornBunni2 votes

Similar to the banrate, the playrate on champion.gg is listed as roughly half of other sites for every single character because it shows the % of players using a character in that role, not the % of games they're present.

Zeyphel7 votes

It is not just his high WR+PR and his BR, but the champion who has those statistics. A champion like Yasuo with those statistics is really worrying.

hhaavviikk5 votes

-3 ad, back to joke nerfs it is

Sp33d Zer06 votes

Vayne lost 5% win rate on her -3 nerf.

But yea we'll call it a joke.

Théolos5 votes

Is Yasuo really the only Champ with that kind of rates? Or just the same yasuo bashing as always?

Bultz5 votes

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It still baffles me on why Riot refuses to take any sort of action against this guy, or the fact that Yasuo main warriors constantly defending this champion for God knows why.

This is absolutly okay. Defuq u mean.

AntiSJW4 votes

1.) he's getting a nerf next patch 2.) those numbers aren't that oppressive- plenty of champs have hovered at 53 or higher before 3.) You're biased too lol

pogcorn1 votes

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1.) he's getting a nerf next patch 2.) those numbers aren't that oppressive- plenty of champs have hovered at 53 or higher before 3.) You're biased too lol

https://u.gg/lol/tier-list/?role=middle&rank=diamond_plus

highest win rate & pick rate mid says otherwise

feintfiend3 votes

What the hell is wrong with a 51% winrate?

Agent Corgi3 votes

Yasuo has been nerfed on PBE. His [Q] Crit Damage has been lowered to 160% Damage from 180% Damage, they also took 3 Base AD off as well. I do expect Yasuo to feel the Crit Damage Nerf, but not entirely sure what that -3 AD is going to accomplish.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/51/Everything_is_Okay_Emote.png/revision/latest?cb=20180322145328

Here's Riot Repertoir's Tweet regarding the Yasuo nerf. https://twitter.com/RiotRepertoir/status/1095467222607093760

Volocaust3 votes

wow yasuo is strong for once

Aionius2 votes

Yeah he can use some nerfs lol.

Who Fed Ru2 votes

I always wonder why people always lose their shit the moment Yas goes over 50% wr, but the moment to dare to bring up like Anivias 53.21% wr stats suddenly don't matter anymore.

And The Lettuce3 votes

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I always wonder why people always lose their shit the moment Yas goes over 50% wr, but the moment to dare to bring up like Anivias 53.21% wr stats suddenly don't matter anymore.

Because her play rate is super low amd she's only really played by dedicated mains. She's so seldomly played that a lot of people don't know how to play correctly against her anymore. As an Aniv main, she's been pretty well on the weak side since the slew of nerfs around when they changed her ult and compounded by the mana regen and item changes a ways back. The rise of extreme mobility also made her wall almost useless.

Sewer Side2 votes

51% someone stop the presses!

5% pickrate btw

PopcornBunni4 votes

5% pickrate means 5% of the players are locking him in even through bans, meaning that if he weren't banned in 70% of games, he would be seen nearly three times as much.

That "5% pickrate btw" is also the highest presence of any midlaner beating out Zed by a margin of about 6 players per 100.

Packun Flower4 votes

How do you pick a champion when they are constantly banned for having a toxic overloaded kit?

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