When I'm 5/0 as the jungler, I really don't expect my 1/3 adc to try to steal my jungle buffs

LVL99 Helper TK·Feb 28, 2018·2 votes·494 views

Probably in 25 percent of all of my games, my adc is both underperforming and contesting my blue and red buffs and when it gets to mid-late game and I try to split push, they follow me to bot lane and refuse to group with the other 3 members who are diligently applying pressure to mid so I can split push, but since the adc is bot lane, my other team mates get engaged on and killed 5v3.

And I'm sitting there staring at the adc, just failing to understand, why you would rather intentionally lose the game than get carried.

This literally loses you the game, because then the enemy team gets a free baron and it's too much of a throw to come back from in most games.

oh and another thing it's almost always Vayne players and Draven players doing this shit

6 Comments

LeylaniaFeb 28, 20182 votes

Why would you try to splitpush as a jungler?? You don't have teleport, there is absolutly zero reason for you to be away from the team in late game. And yes it's normal to give your adc the red buff unless you are extremly fed on a carry jungler.

FOR JUSTICEFeb 28, 20181 votes

TP is not a nenessecity for splitpushing. Maybe he was also trying to maintain the lead?

But more importantly even if its the norm, if the adc isnt very good, its just a waste to give them a buff.

Douglas FunnieFeb 28, 20181 votes

In this meta, a junglers job is to gank, gank, and gank. They don't need farm. Instead of stealing kills, let the adc have a kill or two and they will snowball, believe me.

Xion The XIVFeb 28, 20181 votes

It's because those 2 adc's have the mentality of children. If they are not carrying they will lose the game, because they did not carry the win. Vayne loses top lane she ran it down mid. Draven lost bot lane ran it down mid. This is not something new. It's same with a majority of Yasuo personalities and Riven Mains. If you dare not give into their demands they will lose the game for you. I had an adc have the gall to go 1/7 and then demand he needed red buff. Ignore the 13/2 JG(ME). When I didn't give it she decided to just run it down mid. We still won the 4v5, but it's like dragging a small child throwing a temper tantrum out of a store kicking and screaming for a win.

LyingOnLineFeb 28, 20181 votes

You should never, ever be pushing botlane as a jungler. Against even a semi-competent enemy team, that is an easy Baron for them 100% of the time.

Also, redbuff is just in general much more effective on ADCs.

AlienPrimateFeb 28, 20181 votes

I've always had the thought that all farm, be it minions, monsters, or buffs are free game to anyone after early game. If the red buff is sitting there and someone takes it, so be it. At least the enemy didn't get it. If there is a wave stacking up in top lane and you are the jungler, feel free to take it. If razorbeaks just respawned as you are walking by as a middle laner, feel free to take them. There is no reason for jungle camps to ever stay alive for more than a minute. If you took to long getting to it as a jungler and someone else takes it, get over it. At least the enemy didn't get it and the faster someone kills them the faster they can respawn and be killed again.