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We destroyed Vayne

SorryBoysImLes··6 votes·441 views

Me and my ADC forced her to stay under tower, got a 4 kill advantage over her because she was too cocky and kept forcing fights her support didn't won't to go through with. Even creamed them in a 2v3 when their Eve ganked. ADC has nearly 3 times the CS as her.

Vayne leaves lane to steal top lanes farm to get a botrk, team fight breaks out and despite being 2 levels behind she picks up a Quadra with just her botrk.

If that had been someone like MF, or pretty much any other ADC in game, they would have had zero impact on that team fight with that kind of disadvantage.

If Vayne is allowed to pull this kind of crap after completely fucking up her laning the way she did and making that many mistakes, then every ADC should get that same privilege.

Edit: Just destroyed another bot-lane with my ADC, similar situation with the Vayne earlier. It was Varus and Blitz. **But guess what? **When a teamfight broke out, Varus sat in the back doing tickle-damage and we wiped their entire team with half of our HP to spare. Varus messed up, and he paid for it. That's how champions should work until they get a window of opportunity (pick off some kills, farm a lot, get the items they need.) Vayne's window of opportunity? "I got my Botrk! Time to solo anyone on the enemy team."

5 Comments

BroLane2 votes

none should. nerf vayne.

GastonBarnacles1 votes

It's because she scales so well from attack speed. She can be extremely behind but as long as she has some attack speed her w stupid dmg will proc and eat ppl while she "outplays" with her safe kit. Also her ult gives free ad meaning she can sacrifice building ad for even more attack speed. Hate that fucking champ, I always have. I play normals 95% of the time so I have to deal with her too.

IcyPepper1 votes

Hypercarries have weaker laning, stronger late-games.

However, Vayne just seems... ouch. Like, how this scenario should have played out (assuming your adc was a lane bully, not a fellow hypercarry?), was that Vayne should be destroyed in laning, and if you ignored her and let her get farm and assists, eventually get to the point where she becomes a threat again.

But right now, Vayne's early game is just not weak enough. And BORK... might need changes too.

SorryBoysImLes1 votes

The fact she has so much self-peel and so many steroids make it so she doesn't need items to succeed. Her ult and W provide more than enough DPS to make up for a missing damage item, her condemn and tumble make up for having no defense, and her passive makes up for chasing down whoever she pleases even if they have better boots than her.

It's just unfair that there's champions where if you succeed and play well you'll do "good" throughout the game. Then there's champions where you can completely mess up, make multiples of the same mistake (forcing fights when behind like she did,) yet still come out on-top and carry the game despite playing bad. However, if you did the same thing on say Miss Fortune or Varus, you pretty much sealed your fate and you prove to be almost useless, if not practically a liability to your team.

I just don't comprehend why that's allowed. Do good on X champ, be an insane hypercarry. Fail? No worries you'll still comeback.

Do good on Y champ, be a decent carry. Fail? You most likely just cost your team the game.

With that kind of system why would anyone want to play champion Y?

ID x iKuma1 votes

its fine man just itemize vs %hp true damage u nab

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