Is it just me or are there a lot of people that seem to be out of their elo this season thanks to DQ

SIayton·Jun 3, 2016·41 votes·1,267 views

I don't ever remember this being as big a problem in plat and above before but more and more lately I feel like a lot of players skill level just isn't at what "plat" used to be and the skill variance of teammates is SUPER high. I think possibly a lot of it is because people are getting boosted thanks to dynamic queue allowing people to play with a team of people that will carry them, but something is definitely up this season.

Has anyone else noticed this?

27 Comments

franticFurballJun 4, 20165 votes

Wait...so a system that lets people play with completely variable group sizes in RANKED, combined with much faster account leveling and a ranking system that gives PLAYER SPECIFIC ranks regardless of wheter or not they play IN GROUPS, will see heavy ELO boosing along the line?

#What a complete surprise. Who would have thought that would happen ^^

AazzlanoJun 3, 20164 votes

There have always been players who were boosted to Diamond then fell from there into Plat MMR, but this season it is the worst.

And you said it right, the skill variance is crazy high. Game to game you get people wildly different in skill, entire tiers of skill different. It's ludicrous. It's more luck of you getting the better team and stomping, than you actually having a fair chance of winning and your skill showing in a well made matchup, and winning that way.

Sad.

MälzaharJun 3, 20163 votes

Yep. I dropped out of plat recently and gnawing on every LP i can get to get back. I met a Warwick yesterday who went bloodrazor and blade of the ruined king combined with grasp of the undying. He ulted the enemy Malzahar twice this game while Malzahar was in Passive. I looked him up and he played this combo 35 times but with 4 friends who are all, what a surprise, platinum1-3. You can almost say, elo hell is becoming a real thing. If I werent playing Yi and solo carrying my games lategame I would be in silver by now

LirikJun 3, 20162 votes

i feel you and can relate to this 100% accurate

69982196_DELJun 4, 20162 votes

Jon Snow knows more about the game that those guys.

Darth StepVaderJun 3, 20161 votes

Platinum is pretty crap this season. Many people managed to reach it thanks to DQ, despite their actual knowledge and understanding of the game is whole divisions lower. On top of that, i've also noticed that due to the massive changes, the rapid meta swifts and the cost that even the slightest mistake can have, has also caused many high plat/diamond playes to fail to adapt. So, plat is filled up with people that either dont deserve to be there or people that have simply lost their desire to keep trying really hard.

69982196_DELJun 4, 20161 votes

As Dunkey used to say "this shit is like playing competitive Mario Party, this shit is just out of my control at this point"

FiddlesOnTheRoofJun 3, 20161 votes

no, I haven't had any problems. You can still only group with people within a single elo of you. That would be some really hate carrying to boost someone when you're Metuchen against other pre mades. There aren't suddenly people two divisions over their head or anything.

69982196_DELJun 4, 20161 votes

I saw them every day... wanna met some sweet examples?

YJRBqwXJcSJun 4, 20161 votes

{quoted}

no, I haven't had any problems. You can still only group with people within a single elo of you. That would be some really hate carrying to boost someone when you're Metuchen against other pre mades. There aren't suddenly people two divisions over their head or anything.

low elo account is given to higher ranking player

higher ranking player proceeds to carry low elos

Mojihito666Jun 4, 20161 votes

no, I haven't had any problems. You can still only group with people within a single elo of you.

Stop lying. Its called smurfing and its legal.

FiddlesOnTheRoofJun 5, 20161 votes

What does that have to do with dq? Smurfing has always been an issue

notmebuthimJun 4, 20161 votes

~~Not like its easier then ever to level a knew account or anything~~

Vistha KaiJun 4, 20161 votes

A Platinum can play with Diamonds and Golds alike.

FiddlesOnTheRoofJun 5, 20161 votes

Not at the Same time. He can only group with the gold or the diamonds

Vistha KaiJun 5, 20161 votes

Thank you for repeating what I said.

Stella Ex AmoreJun 4, 20161 votes

I have quit because of it. Haven't played in over a week and don't plan on returning unless I hear about radical changes being made to the entire ranked system.

I was Gold III last season, it was my first season actually trying to get better at the game. This season after "promos" I was automatically relegated into Silver III, which is the distance most people were experiencing themselves fall to. No matter, I would just work hard and try to not get mad and climb my way to Diamond or high Platinum (my goal).

With the introduction of DQ I fell from Silver I to Silver III and quit last week. I can't take the skill variance (that's a polite way of putting it). I've never seen such unbalanced groupings of players. Champions are beyond broken, I couldn't carry my team against a Swain (who wasn't fed) when I was 17-3 ADC. This happened multiple times in multiple lanes with different champions. And no I don't think I'm really good, my point is that no matter how hard I try to win and not get mad at my teammates it has become too much.

Before my last match, I was playing Varus ADC and doing very well with my support against the enemy team's bot lane. Stomping them I guess it could be said. No matter. Our mid lane who took Kayle against Jayce fed 10 kills in under 20 minutes to him. At first myself and our jungle got mad at him, saying things like "Look man just let the lane go. We're winning our lanes, just let your lane go."

Well guess what. That Jayce was a high Diamond smurf who went over 30 kills before we were defeated, I ended at 9/9. The Jayce in the end-game chat invited us all to watch his live stream on Twitch of him pub stomping low ELO players.

Good riddance.

LaughingStaplerJun 4, 20161 votes

It wouldn't be surprising. Before, you had to really play well to climb but if you've got some friends you practice with (especially on smurfs), you basically just have to not feed horribly and get carried.

Also, premades naturally make it harder to isolate individual skill since DQ adds so many more variables (more players, potentially voice comms and pre-game strategies) so there will be way more variance in skill levels because the system.

69982196_DELJun 4, 20161 votes

Meh, I simply let the ilusion of ranked away. It is a joke, I'm gold but I get frequently bronze (actually gold DQ carried from bronze) players as mates and rivals (hardly both in the same game). I can play any champion in top and win my lane hard pretty much always. Wining is a thing of luck unless I get on ultra-hardtry mode, but it's not worthy, those guys are dumb as wood and the stress is not compensated by this false ranking.

SimpumbaJun 4, 20161 votes

I'm struggling to get to diamond, I was plat1, now I'm plat2 about to be demoted. There's so many players who don't deserve to be here right now. I either have to carry a game so hard, and baby every player to make them stop flamming eachother. AND that's if we even win because my team gets caught all game. It dumbfounds me how people got here. Plat1 I'd say is basically bronze 1. So many players with no basically knowledge. (0/7 irelia but she still rushed tri+ botrk+ WITS END...)

SIaytonJun 4, 20161 votes

I went from diamond last season to plat 5 this season, climbed to plat 2 and then got paired with golds for a really long streak and just couldn't carry them, fell to plat V now. Pretty frustrated with this. As long as I have teammates that follow my calls and can semi perform their roles and do common sense stuff I can carry but I'm getting people that just have 0 game sense and don't work with pings or directions in chat at all pretty consistently. Last season the people in plat and diamond were of much higher quality and knew how to work together and generally had good game sense and awareness. Not anymore, and I think it's because the majority of them don't belong here or are matched out of their league.

Dynamic queue has absolutely made the game worse.

General Esdeath Jun 4, 20161 votes

I feel it in gold 5 because people buy a boost for the reward and then try to play but they don't even know counter picks.

notmebuthimJun 4, 20161 votes

Just wait for the end of the season, game quality will be REAL interesting as all sorts of players will be getting boosted to get boarders. WILL BE FUN!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

EggplantosphereJun 5, 20161 votes

Im guilty of this, although im G2, I ofter play with all other plats. I had a lot of fun with my friends, but I feel filthy for using DQ to climb. However, I do well in solo play but I can't help but feel boosted. TL:DR, as someone who has used the system, I can also say it isn't right for me