Then maybe we could get a better look at their thoughts on those champions, because some of these balance changes (or lack of) don't seem right. I also think this would create a connection between rioters and the community that doesn't seem to be there at the moment.
Super Galaxy72 votesMake CertainlyT play mid vs Yasuo.
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Jamaree34 votes[{quoted}](name=Dark Står ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-28T02:13:05.200+0000)
Make CertainlyT play mid vs Yasuo.
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See, the problem with that is when he bodies any Yasou he plays against, that idea would instantly backfire and could get him buffed instead.
Dewott61036 votes"Hmmm too weak, give him triple crit instead and heals off the bonus crit damage"
ModAcademy Kayn7 votesOr it backfires the other way, he bodies every Yasuo he plays, because he actually knows how to play against the champion he himself designed.
"C'mon guys, it's not that hard."
Velzard of Koz2 votesAFAIK he himself said he finds it frustrating to play against his own champions so it wouldn't backfire this way (I think he just looks at the design objectively when making them)
Strawberrycocoa6 votesThe notion that he can play against his own champions, find them as frustrating to deal with as everyone else does, and still proceed with those designs strips me of all hope for fairness and goodness in the world.
SweedishGunner6 votesHe made Zoe didn't he? He hasn't learnt a damn thing apart from giving champions mana.
Z3Sleeper1 votesA small step in the right direction I guess.
wings are broken3 votesAgain, he might looks at the design objectively. _ "strips me of all hope for fairness and goodness in the world"_, I think this is a bit dramatic
Romans VI XXIII4 votesNo cause we would make him play vs a diamond+ Yas. CT is only silver. He would get utterly decimated.
Strawberrycocoa2 votes...Why in the hell do we have to hear this "we balance around pro play because they know the game best" bullshit when the people actually designing these things can only get to Silver in the first place?
wings are broken1 voteslol, you haven't ranked since season 6 and you were bronze then... You think your elo is higher than the designer that "can only get to Silver in the first place" If this is your only account and you play it consistently, what do you really have to add to the discussion other than complaints, considering that your elo is lower than the designers themselves?
Strawberrycocoa2 votesI just expect the designers to be high enough level of a player to be playtesting their designs at the level they are balancing around.
And I never said anything about my elo being higher than anybody else's, don't put words in my mouth.
nightwraith king1 votesYes then we have a challenger player play x and a bronze player play y and when the challenger player wins we nerf their champ and do this with the whole roster because skill has no effect in this game.
wings are broken1 voteslmao honestly
King Braum23 votesCertainlyT already said he hates his own champions and thinks they're extremely frustrating to play against. https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedOutstandingShrewThisIsSparta
DeathBurst5 votesWay to take a quote out of context, buddy. At least you gave the link so people can check for themselves, and they definitely should.
King Braum6 votesHe hates his own champions as a player, he likes them as a designer. Though I get the confusion now that I read my own comment back.
Strawberrycocoa3 votesHe needs to rethink his process then, if he's going to go ahead with designs he knows full well cause frustration and aggravation.
Illabethe1 votesThat's probably part of the criteria for a current meta champ though: High skill cap, but powerful, frustrating, and aggravating to deal with. Incentivizes teamwork.
Champions aren't supposed to be easy to deal with. I know about half of them are, but most of those were early release champions who still have linear underwhelming kits. In reality this game is supposed to use your brain.
Let me give you an example:
Just now, I had a team hyper feeding a 
.
Literally NONE of them knew how to work around her, as she first item'd a 
I Was 
.
You know what I did?
Every single time she started a potential 1v5 ace, I would bait her first hits, Ignite her, Barrier, take 2 shots, Flash back, then R >Q and let my team finish the rest.
What this did was deprive her of a Silver Arrows proc and reset her rotation halfway through her ult. That meant E was on cooldown, her W was useless, and she couldn't heal.
She got a little stronger toward the end, so I also added 
into the mix, and would proc it when I went in to ignite her.
^ What I described above is NOT NORMAL PLAY. That's problem solving on a micro and macro level to shut down a toxic hard to deal with champ. It used every part of my kit literally just to pin her down, not kill her. But I knew if I did it, and then Flashed correctly after she Tumbled, she was dead every time.
And I need to emphasize: this was a good Vayne. She even brought an Anivia support to create free walls for her. The Anivia was timing those walls to cancel Tristana Rocket Jumps too.
Saevum1 votesSo he rejected his own blood? his own children? Man, that's harsh.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesNone of that is actually out of context. And a designer should make champions that are fun and engaging to play as and agaisnt AS a player, cause thats what it's all about making the PLAYER happy.
Sewer Side1 votesHe literally said he makes champions that he thinks players want though, it’s not like he’s some evil mastermind trying to destroy the game from within.
Romans VI XXIII2 votesthen he doesn't have any idea what the player base wants lol
Sewer Side1 votesHe was the first guy to design a fun support.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesLOL, thresh was "fun" for the user like yas is. His kit was extremely broken and over loaded and has sence seen quit a few changes to it. Release Thresh was not "fun" to play agaisnt as he was extremely overbearing, and kinda still is.
ChasmOfTrossm1 votes[{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-02-28T08:15:59.714+0000)
CertainlyT already said he hates his own champions and thinks they're extremely frustrating to play against. https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedOutstandingShrewThisIsSparta
So in other words, CertainlyT is a masochist, who enjoys torturing himself. All the more proof that he shouldn't be working as a champion designer.
Frog goes moo1 votes[{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-02-28T08:15:59.714+0000)
CertainlyT already said he hates his own champions and thinks they're extremely frustrating to play against. https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedOutstandingShrewThisIsSparta
that's actually pretty saddening. Imagine being hated by your creator. I mean fuck you yasuo but still :(
Strawberrycocoa2 votesCertainly T needs to be made to play against all his own creations for, like, a WEEK, so he can understand the suffering we endure from his hubris.
Mordepool30 votesYes please, seems to me they look at their internal data of match results without having a feel on the pulse of the game.
Masala Chai26 votesYou want Riot streams? You gottem!
twitch.tv/blaustoise twitch.tv/riot_thugginuggs twitch.tv/swimbananas twitch.tv/augustuwu
Sir Saltarin14 votesYou forgot Riot Ponytail www.twitch.tv/hashinshin
Tahminatrix 21 votesThis sounds like a really good way to put rioters in touch with the community.
But there is also that underlying tone of the whole "feel my pain and suffer" with them having to play matchups that are too unfavorable.
Which could derail and undermine the whole point of this idea which is to benefit the game.
But then again, "we learn only as much as we have suffered" -
Saezio10 votesWow, Karma says that? I should really start playing with sound enabled.
Syrile16 votesNone of the "balance" team have actually played the game... Pretty sure of it. Otherwise, how could they justify half the the things they do?
The Trent2 votesNone of the "balance" team have actually played the game... Pretty sure of it. Otherwise, how could they justify half the the things they do?
Literally half the balance team and champion design team have streamed themselves playing the game and tweet about playing the game all the time. Probably more than half actually.
Syrile1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-02-28T22:49:21.139+0000)
Literally half the balance team and champion design team have streamed themselves playing the game and tweet about playing the game all the time. Probably more than half actually.
Meh. I hardly believe they really play the game. Anyone who has to play against and lane against most of the nonsense they do in the game would quickly change it. Proof in point is it was so bad last year that even pro players were blasting how bad the changes were and still took ages for them to start correcting it. They have no idea what they are doing.
Critmaster Garen14 votesi wouldnt be surprised if a lot of the live design and balance team doesnt play their own game.
ghostcrawler himself said that he doesnt play league, and you dont have to play it to balance it.
Saianna8 votesI'd like to see some Rioters play the game
FTFY :P
Hammermancer6 voteswha-what if they perfectly counter yasuo with volibear?
Jennifer4205 voteswell but for the balance team to stream LoL they'd first have to create an account and learn to play the game LOL
The Trent1 votesThey do and they have? They do play tests every single day... Also why are you trying to imply all rioters don't make connections with the community? The lore team talks to us a lot and so does the art team. The shout casters talk to us a ton and some of the champion designers are very active and stream. Did you even put effort into looking for these rioters or did you want one to walk to you? Riot literally has partnerships with league youtubers too to help build the community... Like who you tryin' to fool sis? Yourself? Seems like it worked lmao.
NoIWontBuySkins12 votesOf course they do that's why they can never actually balance a champ or ignore OP for months.
BOOST CRIT! REMOVE TANKS AS VIABLE! MORE DAMAGE!
Yeah they are in tune...
Daddy Ants3 votesOf course they do that's why they can never actually balance a champ or ignore OP for months.
BOOST CRIT! REMOVE TANKS AS VIABLE! MORE DAMAGE!
Yeah they are in tune...
"Remove Tanks as Viable"
Tanks are viable.
The meta isn't warped around the class but they are definitely viable.
Romans VI XXIII6 votesYes tanks are viable along as they aren't building tank and build damage.
Astrovert1 votesDid you just defend Riot by saying "The lore team and art team communicates", When the actual team that matters doesn't communicate?
How exactly is that helpful overall of anything? So you are saying we can play a shit game as long as its pretty?
This is how a company looks when the people in charge are afraid to replace people.
The Trent1 votesDid you just defend Riot by saying "The lore team and art team communicates", When the actual team that matters doesn't communicate?
How exactly is that helpful overall of anything? So you are saying we can play a shit game as long as its pretty?
This is how a company looks when the people in charge are afraid to replace people.
some people only see what they want to see... you're a prime example of that.
Astrovert1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-03-02T04:22:12.129+0000)
some people only see what they want to see... you're a prime example of that.
You mean some people see the truth and that's a problem for people whos jobs depend on everyone overlooking. NO ONE should be a game dev that doesn't play at all, I don't give a F who they are. Would you like someone working on your car that has never drove? You remind me of my internet company that says "Whats League of Legends?". The company whose employees have no idea what they are working for works as expected.
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