So as predicted senna is tier 1 on release, are we gonna nerf her oppressiveness yet?

we havent met·11/21/2019, 4:33:48 AM·19 votes·6,271 views

Across the board her support AND adc capability are well over 50% with a 46.5 % overall ban rate with a 21% pick rate support and 5% pick rate adc. It's almost like most of the people who even critiqued her release, saw this coming. She's unbalanced and needs direct nerfs. And this is exactly what people didnt want. When you give a champion TOO much and let them be active and fulfill two roles for one champ it's unhealthy as fuck. Not to mention veigar levels of infinite scaling. Seriously was there even a thought of balance going in to releasing her?

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GripaAviara11/21/2019, 3:16:19 PM8 votes

Senna is crazy strong. Just pick her and go on mid to see how easily she outperforms most mid champions. Sure arguably she isn't viable there due to other kit reasons, but the fact she can go toe to toe with a lot of solo mid champs is scarry

Tuition Fee11/21/2019, 4:40:06 AM7 votes

I feel like they should change her starting range to 550. No need for 600, plenty of enchanter supports are able to poke at 550.

WoonStruck11/21/2019, 6:31:29 AM6 votes

Nerf starting range or change the MS on-hit to on-crit or level 6+ only.

Pumpedhero11/21/2019, 4:41:56 AM4 votes

"You give a champion TOO much and let them be active and fulfill two roles for one champ it's unhealthy as fuck" Looks at like 80 other champions that do this and are fine..... .-.??? She doesnt scale as hard as veigar, she does less damage than nasus, has more range than cait.. you people always forget theres easy counters to senna.. even if shes fed shes quite easy to kill. Shes immediately terminated when shes CC'd she has no scaling stats that are decent, all you have to do is punish her and not let her free farm souls off you. if she does, blame ur bot, oh well.

Daddy Ants11/21/2019, 4:12:19 PM3 votes

She's S+ according to Proguides.

S according to Mobalytics

She's bonkers rn.

Fear the Kayn11/21/2019, 9:56:59 AM3 votes

I really don’t think she’s oppressively strong. She’s a new champion so her pick/ban rate will naturally be higher. I have not seen her winrate this patch but unless it’s 52%+ I think she’s fine.

Waka FIocka11/22/2019, 11:36:32 PM3 votes

her kit is what used to be a whole team effort of skillshot spam in a teamfight. aoe root, aoe camo + untargetability+ ms buff, q is NUTS spam poke + heals my god it's just way too much especially alongside someone like jhin or ashe. scales to infinity when she is already pretty nuts at base with her aa range + q spam. her global ulti is the cherry fuckery on top lol. she is super oppressive even in top and mid. i've seen her stomp games as jungler. she seems to work anywhere and it's crazy that she was supposed to be a support hybrid (with emphasis more on being support). like ooooooooOOOKAY,

Daddy Ants11/25/2019, 11:20:12 AM2 votes

I'd rather play against Caitlyn or Teemo for 100 games than Senna for 1.

Hence why I'm perm banning Senna and will continue to do so until her starting AA range is significantly nerfed.

There's absolutely no reason a champion with infinite scaling attack range should start at 600 range.

Kindred starts at 500.

Tristana starts at 525.

Illabethe11/24/2019, 10:17:43 PM2 votes

Dunno why people keep posting these Senna hate threads without actually playing her.

She has bipolar matchups. Her win rate isn't that extreme. She has absolute counters, and very little room for even pros to improve on.

She has 2 of the hardest damage restrictions in the game on her damage.

She self roots.

She dies in .5 seconds to anything that can reach her.

People just see a kit, idealize it as "OP" because it has some offerings, but don't even know the kit in practice.

It has "potential." Like Jhin/Vayne/Kai Sa have "potential." Doesn't mean broken. Means, if you build a team that doesn't counter her, expect to feel oppressed.

Kind of like..... when you build a team vs a Master Yi with no hard CC and no real 1 shot capacity..... But oh wait..... people defend Yi.....

Żügżwäng11/21/2019, 2:48:30 PM2 votes

For her having such a large gun she doesn't feel clunky enough. Her Q is basically just as fast as Luciana but way wider longer and can hit buildings.

Afelers11/24/2019, 10:08:12 PM1 votes

Personally I'd reduce her self healing or at least change Q to be a skillshot (something that should have been mandatory on a champ made in 2019). She basically harasses you as much as she likes but if you dare trade her, then she just says lol nope, presses a single damn Q button because that needs so much skill and she not only further harasses you but also goes back to full hp!?

NaughtyWord11/24/2019, 10:20:19 PM1 votes

She's on autoban whenever I ADC. The ONLY exception I make is if my team can pick her ON THE VERY FIRST PICK.

I'm not laning against her, I'm not risking laning against her, garbage OP champ. She has a better winrate than literally every ADC except MissFortune right now.

Yes, higher than Ashe Jinx Caitlyn Draven Jhin

Not Senna as a support, but Senna as the ADC.