Ziggs or Viktor?

WitchQueen Annie··1 votes·847 views

Is Ziggs basically a better version of Viktor at this point?

I've just tried him and he seems to be a lot more dangerous.

Laning - They both move around and try to proc TLD combos. Ziggs' damage is a bit less reliable but he also has 3 damage spells to work with (Vik only has 2) and an automatically empowered auto to time trades with. Sure you can't just throw Ziggs' Qs at max range and spam it or you burn your mana but as a Viktor player, the aiming seems fairly similar.

Roaming- Viktor seems to have better roaming in mid game with summoner 6. If you run in bot with Ghost, place and move Chaos Storm and Gravity Field to zone and blast the key targets... if its timed well... double kill. Ziggs doesn't have that kind of mid game roam power... however (the next point)

Tower Push and Waveclear- Ziggs has way better tower push. While Viktor has traditionally been the god of wave clear, I find that Ziggs isn't that much worse at it (between Q and E you have more than enough to push if the other guy leaves). You have a tower execute (so faster mid tower push to prevent roams).

Lane and Teamfight Safety- Ziggs is WAY safer. You can use your W to escape and worse comes to worse, you can Ult yourself and probably get off SICK AOE blast even if you die. Viktor cannot get away... you can Gravity Field and Ult yourself though as a last resort. However, Ziggs can generally position more aggressively because you know you can W away.

Lane Kill Pressure- Honestly, they both try to poke the other guy down and then go for the burst. However, I'll give Viktor a slight edge because Chaos Storm applies immediate damage (compared to a delay in Zigg's Ult) and it can chunk if the enemy can't dash away.

Late Game Utility and Damage- I feel this is where Ziggs starts becoming better. He has WAY more range than Viktor to work with. Yes Viktor has higher damage numbers because of his passive and more 100-0 burst up close but I feel this is largely negated by Ziggs ' overwhelmingly superior range (and spammability of Qs). While Viktor has higher numbers (and his Q Lich Bane DESTROYS), Ziggs has high enough numbers at some point to nearly 100-0 squishies and I think ultimately that's what matters.

PS: Viktor 's laser is slightly easier to aim than Ziggs Qs but at the same time, Ziggs 's Qs are not as sluggish as Lux abilities. ...

So what do you think?

Who is better?

3 Comments

Snarflaz1 votes

Viktor is better for teamfight CONTROL. Ziggs is better for dishing out damage and blowing up squishies in the back line. What makes Viktor at some points better than ziggs is his W. Viktor can zone out the entire front line of the enemy team while ziggs can not do the same.

exigentomic1 votes

No, I'd say Viktor is way stronger in experienced hands and way more reliable (he used to be a staple for boosters). When I play Ziggs vs Viktor, he can duel me at pretty much all points and I tend to get slightly zoned in lane too. Late game I'd say Viktor is also more impactful since teams aren't usually just going to wait forever till Ziggs pokes them down. They'll engage and Viktor is way stronger in those situations. His roams are better too so you can snowball leads better on Viktor. Moreover, he waveclears just as well as Ziggs. If anything, there are few reasons to pick Ziggs when Viktor exists but Viktor's a bit more awkward to learn (at least for me) and he plays worse from behind.

Leo10241 votes

viktor scales so much better, ziggs is dps burst mix but victor is flat out burst

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