playing adc becomes a million times more do or die, feast or famine. i really enjoy playing adc but im not super amazing at it, so during an adc meta when even if youre 0 5 you get focused HARD by the whole enemy team (or at least in my experience down here in potato tier) its not very easy to have a lot of fun or to do very well unless youre good enough, fed enough, or have enough peel from your allies
FOR JUSTICE24 votesIts actually one of the biggest misconceptions about league right now, people seem to think that adcs are solocarries. An adc can't do shite on their own vs anyone who isnt a support.
Now im not saying that they cant carry, its kinda their job, but they cant do it 100% solo, they need someone to keep their ass from getting slaughtered by litterally anything. Granted there are a few exceptions to that protect rule though, 
, because self peel
Thefrostyviking10 votesVarus self peel is really not noteworthy when put next to tristana x)
He is worse than both Ashe and Cait...Vayne too.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 voteshe's only worse for the self peeling.
Thefrostyviking3 votesPeel and no peel makes a world of difference^^
Admittedly he is hella strong with even decent peel as long as he doesn't fall behind.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku3 votesvarus's still top tier
SwiftKitten883 votesIts actually one of the biggest misconceptions about league right now, people seem to think that adcs are solocarries. An adc can't do shite on their own vs anyone who isnt a support.
Now im not saying that they cant carry, its kinda their job, but they cant do it 100% solo, they need someone to keep their ass from getting slaughtered by litterally anything. Granted there are a few exceptions to that protect rule though,
thats not really true, on equal gold ADC outclasses nealy every champ in the game.. as a player who plays ASSASSINS my ENTIRE role is to bring down their adc or other various squishy targets.
yet despite the fact that tanks and bruisers hardcounter me.. other assaisn can burst me down just as easy as i can them.. i in the VAST majorities of the cases.. MOST afraid of the enemy adc. who is SUPPOSED to be on one I counter.
and no im not solely taking about and adc with thier support.. or an adc in a group teamfight.. I'm talking about i have 10 kills and and i have to play absolutely perfect to not get murdered by said 6 kill adc who is all alone farming bot lane at 30 min
(these numbers are examples )
granted its not the ADC;s themselves that are the issue (outside of a few cases like )
its really just items and runes casing this issue. and since riot will never fix runes.. the onyl thing that can be done is increase the cost of adc items to the appropriate value.
becuase and i state this again.. ON EQUAL GOLD i did NOT say "same amount of items"
Corrupt Bliss2 votesI guarantee you that 
all take dumps on ADCs when they have "EQUAL GOLD" (not same amount of items) in a 1 v 1 duel.
Either you are a really bad assassin, or you are a really bad assassin if you can't solo an adc at 30 minutes with 10 kills (and I'm assuming ~7.5 cs/min).
DeusVult2 votesWhile this is mostly accurate it hurts to watch an ADC get "ganked" by an assassin who has just about the same amount of gold as the ADC but dies because the ADC had IE+double zeal and got 3 crits in a row.
WiegrafOfValor2 voteshttps://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/80ci06/insane_tristana_1v3/
As you can see here, this poor tristana without her OP support been massacred by 3 enemies while she's by herself. Poor adc, truly helpless.
FOR JUSTICE6 votesThey went in 1 at a time, shen missed taunt, the tower shot twice, she burned flash and a stopwatch, and draven didnt help very much other then a missed ult, and walked into turret range and missed his e, giving tristana a free w reset. She also had less then 1/3 hp left, to which shen could have AA one more time to finish her off.
This game in question was in plat. Also notice how they decided it was ok to continue the dive with no minions under tower, despite a large minion wave approaching.
Nice try, but no dice.
warpenguin5551 votesHoly bronze
SEKAI2 votesIts actually one of the biggest misconceptions about league right now, people seem to think that adcs are solocarries. An adc can't do shite on their own vs anyone who isnt a support.
Now im not saying that they cant carry, its kinda their job, but they cant do it 100% solo, they need someone to keep their ass from getting slaughtered by litterally anything. Granted there are a few exceptions to that protect rule though,
is also a solo carry.
FOR JUSTICE2 votesBut cant get through the first 15 minuets of the game without getting absolutley murdered though. At best, it would be decent. But even then, she still cant just run up to an entire enemy team.
SEKAI1 votesBut cant get through the first 15 minuets of the game without getting absolutley murdered though. At best, it would be decent. But even then, she still cant just run up to an entire enemy team.
When she gets a couple items in, she can actually do that as long as she doesn't get hard-locked, while she proceed to juke the enemy team with her invisibility tumble while 2-3 shotting most champs left and right.
She's been a balance issue for a reason.
DragonShea2 votesIts actually one of the biggest misconceptions about league right now, people seem to think that adcs are solocarries. An adc can't do shite on their own vs anyone who isnt a support.
Now im not saying that they cant carry, its kinda their job, but they cant do it 100% solo, they need someone to keep their ass from getting slaughtered by litterally anything. Granted there are a few exceptions to that protect rule though,
They are still very dominant in spite of it and still are made to be the main carry of the game. in other words they made to carry while other classes are like
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WMBqzDypY9Q/maxresdefault.jpg when it comes to agency.
Noblewind1 votesSo true nothing is worse than playing ADC with a bad comp vs a comp built to dive you. You can do nothing
Executioner21 votesWelcome to the ADC role, not the meta. This has been going on since season 1. Oh you have a steady dps? Well... Time to die.
WiegrafOfValor11 votesWelcome to every other role, if you don't kill the enemy ADC as fast as you can you lose the game.
Use your CC or burst on someone else? Well... Time to die.
Somebody Love Me12 votesYeah one thing I've learned as an ADC player is that the bot lane meta is super stressful on the ADC.
If you fall behind an enemy hypercarry, it's gg, because they'll scale into a monster that you can never catch up to, unless you're a hypercarry yourself and given the very rare opportunity to scale up.
If you lose to an early game lane bully, they'll run around with the lead and you won't be able to do anything unless they somehow fail to close, which is rare outside of pro play.
This ADC meta is absolute hell for the behind ADC, because they have to put themselves in danger to farm up, while the enemy pushes objectives or farms their team. Or if they group with their team, they won't be able to get the necessary gold to be a threat unless the enemy team doesn't know how to play around their fed right clicker.
Ralik0987 votesWe've never had a meta that wasn't an ADC meta.
I Main Swain6 votestell that to the tank meta, mage meta, and assassin meta, all of which are times of great mourning for adc's
SSShutTheDuckUp7 votesAnd during all of them marksmen were pretty much mandatory for almost every team in every elo, from lvl 10 accounts to Worlds finals
I Main Swain1 votesyeah just like having a mage or assassin as your midlaner was always pretty much mandatory, whats your point? thats not an argument that its always adc meta, thats an argument that adc's are an important part of the game usually, which is obvious
SSShutTheDuckUp2 votes"just like it" with the difference that:
The only non-marksmen champions, being valuable picks as a botlane carry were Morde for like 2-3 patches at the end of S5 and Ziggs at pre-season 7. And during that times there were basically 1 non-marksmen meta champion as botlane carry, meaning that there was at least 1 marksmen in every single game.
And I am not even talking about the 3/4-marksmen teams (Quinn top, Graves jungle, Corki/Varus mid, w/e bot), which were seen far more often than 0-marksman teams.
I hope I made my point clear
I Main Swain1 votesyes, youre right, there are things other than assassins and mages that have always seen play in mid lane, just like there have almost always been classes outside of marksmen and supports in the botlane. idk if you havent been here for very long or what but ive seen a LOT of non-adc bot lanes over the years, and they worked really well
also, those 3-4 marksmen teams almost always did poorly if they didnt get a snowball going or if the enemy team knew what they were doing because they lacked teamfighting power and survivability (and whether they were seen more than 0 marksmen teams is debatable)
OP Garen Support2 votesWhat are you smoking when was there a Mage Meta?
I Main Swain1 votesseason 4 if i recall correctly
Escheton5 votesIt took me (mid), my support and top 40-odd-minutes to get our subpar (to the rest of the group) adc and jungler fed off farm and the odd teamfight kill till they could just faceroll keyboard carry fights by pure roflstomp-dmg alone. Pressuring, figthing, warding and baiting our asses off. Great game. But adc impact is too great.
DracosKasu4 votesI will call it more the hypercarry meta over adc meta because they are currently the one who make it this way.
hhaavviikk3 votesADC has always been meta, you say ''well they're just useful'' nono, they're mandatory, no matter during which meta there is an ADC, look at all the other lanes
top has seen AP, bruisers, supports even and ADC's jungle has seen various roles as well, assassins, ADC's, AP, Tanks mid has seen ADC's and AP, mostly AP yes but there was a great deal of time AP weren't even mid and it was just AD now we go to bot which has seen an ADC and nothing but an ADC, the only exception was with ziggs but that was summarily nerfed into the ground
no matter which year you go ADC has always been in bot, mandatory because ADC's have always been that damn strong.
the problem of ADC being focused has always been a problem yes and that's because ever since 2009 it has been the ADC meta, '''but but tank meta'' you see it was simply ADC + tank meta or assassin + ADC meta, ADC doesn't excluded because it's tremendously powerful
I Main Swain1 votesthats incredibly false, especially the part about adc's always having been unquestionably mandatory. in fact it wasnt until this last season that i would have said that going without an adc is a straight up bad idea, idk if you werent here or something but i very strongly remember a whole lot of nonmeta, adc-less bot lanes. adc was never mandatory, it was just overall generally the best/safest option for the sake of team balance. melee champs are usually too easily zoned, mages are usually too mana reliant and lack in dps, etc. its good to have ranged dps, thats literally the whole reason adc's are so heavily used.
every lane has seen just about every type of champion in it, the only reason bot lane is a lot less diverse is because its a duo lane and its easy to get zoned or peeled off the enemy. adc's are no more mandatory than having a tank or a support or a mage. i know some people will immediately want to make the argument that tanks and mages have both had horribly weak points throughout the years but guess what? so have adc's! i remember very well during the tank meta in season 5 being able to all but ignore the enemy adc, during the mage meta barely registering them as i deleted them with an r w as orianna. adc's are not these omniscient gods of the rift
kurnubego1 votesIf you have objectives like baron or elder dragon you will never see any viable team comp without designated dps. I suspect that you may not be aware of what variables forms meta.
SpecterVonBaren3 votesThis is part of why I much prefer being a support main. I'm technically the "guy faster than the other guy trying to outrun the bear".
This is also part of why ADC players can be both complaining about being useless while people call for their heads for being busted. In every match now there is one ADC player that gets to feel like monster, the one that got ahead, while the other person playing ADC on the other team gets to feel like trash.
kurnubego1 votesFarm? Many people in lower elos don't realize that laning phase is for farming gold and not outplays against your lane opponent? Generally speaking lanes should go 0 - 0 without junglers / roam influence.
This attitude should help to stabilize gold income. As that 0 5 as example seems to indicate that person in question operates on wrong presuppositions to begin with.
I Main Swain1 votesthis has nothing to do with how you play, this is about the sheer fact that everything revolves around the adc right now including enemy focus. being good at farming wont fix that
kurnubego1 votesWell, only difference I've noticed that adc's come online a bit earlier. Although it's difficult to say for me is it because adc's or that more gold is accessible early on. Enemy team focusing you seems to be correct course of action, though. So I'm not fallowing what's the source of complain.
You want to delay adc power spikes so that you would hold less influence through out the game? Elaborate please. I'm really not connecting the dots here. Because how you worded the issue it seems that "people are getting better with dealing with me and I have trouble adjusting".
I Main Swain1 votesyes actually, adc's are not meant to have early game power and its ridiculous that the price and power for their items and the balancing riot has done on their kits themselves makes it almost difficult for them to be weak early game. essentially, they are currently strong at virtually any given point in the game. because of that, its straight up bad playing atm to not focus their adc 90% of the time because theyre able to deal such devastating constant damage from a safe distance. long story short, the role itself has become feast or famine
kurnubego1 votesI suppose tristana and kog'maw seem to be off the line. But I'm not convinced about others as much. One would think that everyone on the team would also benefit from increased gold ravenue. Given that most games in my estimation ends around 30 minutes now. (I rember few years ago it was close to 40) seems reasonable. Although some things may be off given the changes and requires some tuning.
I Main Swain1 votesthe problem with gold is threefold. first, adc builds are nowhere near as expensive as the standard builds for everyone else. second, adc items are also very powerful with minimal gating to that power. lastly, due to the stat check dps nature of adc's, they benefit much more than most other champions from snowballing
LordGeovanni1 votesfeast or famine but the famine only counts in relation to the enemy adc everyone else except certain mages are fair game.
