The contradiction behind the Zed patch notes.

Axxuka··2 votes·615 views

All in all, Zed is one of the best examples of what we call a "healthy assassin" in League of Legends.

That doesn't mean there aren't problems - while Zed's ability to delete squishies with a button press and some smooth moves is going to remain intact,

Meanwhile they didn't mind to bury deep underground Talon

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Zakennayo2 votes

Talon can't flash in, instant kill the enemy squishy, then flash out to safety.

Fadedpf1 votes

This. Talon is somewhat predictable. If his job is to destroy the ADC he will ult then E or E then Ult, you can buy pinks to counter him and doesnt have an escape. just GO IN NOW with his E. Zed can Flash, ult, press ult again to escape after he killed you then shadow away IF needed.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Talon can't flash in, instant kill the enemy squishy, then flash out to safety.

Weird, I didn't know Zed flashed in, murdered a squishy AND took half their team's hp, and then ran away while laughing.

Zakennayo1 votes

Oh Zed can do that to! Have you not used him!?

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Oh Zed can do that to! Have you not used him!?

Okay, so Zed can do that if the entire enemy team gets in a small, clumped circle/line and doesn't decide "hey that creepy shadow dude who just laughed and disappeared is going to be in our team spamming damage soon, let's move". Talon can do that by aiming W in the vicinity of enemies and then hitting R to nuke an actual large area.

Fadedpf1 votes

Zed has more escapes, Better AOE damage and the first champion he hits with his Q will literally be half healthed. Talon has no escape after his ult is down, if he deletes your ADC then does decent AOE to your team he is gonna get CC'ed and die. Zed can just press R again.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Zed has more escapes, Better AOE damage and the first champion he hits with his Q will literally be half healthed. Talon has no escape after his ult is down, if he deletes your ADC then does decent AOE to your team he is gonna get CC'ed and die. Zed can just press R again.

"Better AoE". ... Zed's AoE requires their entire enemy team to be standing in a tightly clumped group/line so he can land his E on all 5 and 2 shurikens. Talon's AoE requires pressing W in the direction of enemies and then pressing R, with more damage (because seriously, why the crap would you assume everyone is standing in a conga line for Zed?).

Fadedpf1 votes

Zed can ult into a clumped team press Q and E which hits at least 2 people, explode the person you ulted, work with your team to kill the rest. AND can escape at anytime. You act like talon has been breaking the game for years and he hasnt its ZED. Talon is a standard go in a destroy the ADC type assassin, after that he is just a melee guy with rake, until he can use E again. Still no escapes or anything and WEAK burst unless super duper fed. Zed needs item 3144 item 3134 which are easily got by just farming.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Zed can ult into a clumped team press Q and E which hits at least 2 people, explode the person you ulted, work with your team to kill the rest. AND can escape at anytime. You act like talon has been breaking the game for years and he hasnt its ZED. Talon is a standard go in a destroy the ADC type assassin, after that he is just a melee guy with rake, until he can use E again. Still no escapes or anything and WEAK burst unless super duper fed. Zed needs item 3144 item 3134 which are easily got by just farming.

No, I'm acting like Talon is a better AoE fighter than Zed is. Zed has better THEORETICAL damage in a teamfight, but requires landing multiple shadow shurikens on multiple people along with landing E on multiple people. Talon requires pressing E, then pressing W in one direction and then R for MUCH easier to land AoE that can reliably hit more than 2 people.

Zakennayo1 votes

Yeah if they all don't build ANY armor whatsoever.

And if by some miracle he can live long enough for the W animation to finish, then maybe you deserve to die?

Focus plz!

Zed on the other hand.. Flash in, instant kill, flash out. Wait for low cd abilities, repeat.

Kuroi861 votes

Talon is still strong, though he also has issues.

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