CC isn't so valuable that I want to lose lane because I choose a tank.
I also would like to build defense early which is you know when its supposed to be built. Yes early defenses are op because they stop early kills. Do I give a shit that they are op because they stop kills early? NO!
Stop using "early defense stops kills" as why it can't be buffed. Thats what it is supposed to do.
The Ecdysiast2 votesIt's not supposed to stop kills unless you also use your CC to prevent it. And it certainly isn't supposed to be so strong that you can prevent yourself being killed while your base damage allows you to get kills.
That said, I still think tanks aren't given enough to farm with. Sunfire is the core purchase for most, but that makes you lose the ability to control the wave.
There should be something to help more with farming to offset the fact sunfire is both gold inefficient and hurts farming on the class that's already worst at farming. Maybe a tank starting item with a minions-only spellblade or put "[x] additional damage to minions on hit" on some tank items instead of just doran's shield.
GigglesO2 votesYou can't even prevent it with the cc right now. I started 60 MR against a mage toplane. Still just watched my hp bar disappear while being stuck under tower.
Defenses currently do not exist. Just look at the reworked orn. He is balanced around the idea that he will hit level 13 and have better items. He isn't in a good spot.
The Ecdysiast1 votesYou can't even prevent it with the cc right now. I started 60 MR against a mage toplane. Still just watched my hp bar disappear while being stuck under tower.
Defenses currently do not exist. Just look at the reworked orn. He is balanced around the idea that he will hit level 13 and have better items. He isn't in a good spot.
You do have a point, but you're using the wrong examples. First in the fact you didn't actually tell who you or the mage was in that matchup and we know nothing about the skill level of either player, and worse in using Ornn who was only changed this morning.
Where the issue really lies is in the Tank "Update", where all core tank items were heavily nerfed in order to reward an even split between magic and physical damage against them. And considering their only coinciding changes were to buff three of the biggest offenders when it came to tanks who actually hurt the balance of the game, that update was a complete flop.
Aseraan1 votesAnd how about you pick up something that helps you fight back in lane and than build proper defense when you hit teamfights phase?
I dont want to sound biased but probably sound like it anyway sooooo.......
Offense will always be better than defense(now its just like way way way WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than it) and im the honest beliver that if you go full defensive and you expect to not get punished for it is MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEh.
Sometimes you just gota(lets hope this will be fair for all genders) MAN/WOMAN/transgenderfluid/apache attack helicopter up and fight back instead of picking anything that will make you less likely to die(cuz it will just do that make you less likely to die or just ur gona die slower).
GigglesO1 votesDefense is supposed to help you fight back in lane. It is supposed to prevent high burst.
The Ecdysiast1 votesAnd how about you pick up something that helps you fight back in lane and than build proper defense when you hit teamfights phase?
I dont want to sound biased but probably sound like it anyway sooooo.......
Offense will always be better than defense(now its just like way way way WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than it) and im the honest beliver that if you go full defensive and you expect to not get punished for it is MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEh.
Sometimes you just gota(lets hope this will be fair for all genders) MAN/WOMAN/transgenderfluid/apache attack helicopter up and fight back instead of picking anything that will make you less likely to die(cuz it will just do that make you less likely to die or just ur gona die slower).
If the champions were designed for that to work, they wouldn't be forced into building Sunfire cape as their most effective option. Unless you somehow think all high-ranking and professional top tanks simply don't know of your brilliant "start with damage instead" strategy.