So Elise...

FluffehPoro·6/24/2015, 7:54:48 PM·2 votes·757 views

Alright so they released that new jungle enchantment Runeglaive and they also changed Elise. So... does Runegliave work well with her? I tried it in a custom game and it worked well but that is because it was a bot so.... Has anyone tried to use her with runegliave? Also is Elise good now? I am not really sure how to feel about her.

I feel like she has to be in spider form most of the time because of her new rappel and her healing. So I feel like I would die if I built RG on her because u need a lot of ap to make it work I heard. So I am confused as to what I should be building for Elise and if Elise is even worth playing. I don't know how these changes have made her better or not really. Can anyone shine any light on this for me?

16 Comments

Dreadlocks6/24/2015, 8:19:29 PM1 votes

Well, I played Elise a lot the week before the patch and I have 3 games tested with her since 5.12.. Personally I liked Magus more, the 20% cdr was really nice, you are also down 40 AP. I think Runeglaive is really good on Eve so far, but Elise.. not 100% convinced. I also noticed my first clear was rather scary. The sustain was pretty garbage honestly.

TL;DR, none of these changes helped Elise at all, at least from my experience...

Dracid6/24/2015, 9:11:50 PM1 votes

Elise has never really had a problem clearing the jungle speed wise which is what runeglaive is aimed at. She does %dmg, aoe damage and has an Attack speed steroid. Magus was better because of the 20% CD reduction and higher AP. Her sustain is what the problem was early on. She's still going to need some love to even be average. Just too many other junglers do it better then her right now.

FluffehPoro6/24/2015, 9:29:29 PM1 votes

Hmm I see. So the lifesteal she gets is not as good as it was when it was on her w?

COWmanLord6/24/2015, 9:37:51 PM1 votes

It worked pretty well for the elise in the game I was in earlier.

Carvious6/25/2015, 6:03:00 AM1 votes

My experience with her was that she had a lot of potential to make picks but couldn't get through a tank. She's definitely a good option for a poke comp or catch composition if higher priority options are taken.

She still feels really squishy, even with some tank or hybrid stat items on her. I still need to test her with defensive masteries more thoroughly.

Mostly, I would say that she has a good early to mid game, but her end game is so horrible that you're almost useless.

FluffehPoro6/27/2015, 12:29:26 PM1 votes

Yeah.... Well I guess we will just have to wait 2 more years for a fix maybe. Who knows. Our Elise fate is left up to Rito

KarKzz6/27/2015, 12:35:56 PM1 votes

The problem is that riot doesn't know what to do with her. She still lack of damage to be an assassin, and lack of tanks tools to be a tank. And they buff what ? Attack Speed. She could be a good Ap-bruiser, but riot doesn't know how to do thoses.

Right know , you should try that build : item 3020 ( or item 3111 ofc) item 3709 item 3151 item 3001 item 3157 + item 3143 OR item 3065 item 3102

With that build, you get : 50 Magic pen (+ runes + masteries) , ~3500 HP, ~ 200 armor / 100 OR 130 armor / 150 mr.

Scalings :

Exemple : Total HP of the target : 2000. Let's calculate the equivalent scaling in "pure" AP Human Q : (2000/100) 3 = 60 -> 0,6 AP scaling Spider Q : (1000/100)3 = 30 -> 0,3 AP scaling -> 0,9 AP scaling

On a 3000HP target : Human Q : 90 -> 0,9 AP scaling Spider Q : (half HP) 45 -> 0,45 AP scaling -> 1,35 AP scaling.

She have a 0,8 AP scaling on her W to. If you have 250 AP, you will also do 40 + 75 AP damage / auto, and you spider (5*) 40 + 25 Physical damage / auto / spider.

She still lack of damage to be an assassin, and lack of tanks tools to be a tank