Champs: Why do they even exist?

Milodic Mellodi··1 votes·622 views

I'm not talking about some philosophical debate about why they exist, I'm talking about why certain ones are allowed to exist in the game with the kits they have. These Champions are impossible to balance for healthy gameplay, and yet they're buffed to infinity or given new low-risk high-reward abilities that literally change League to focus around them. A few examples: Skarner, Karthus, and Veigar. Not all of them, just examples of a few. Skarner's Passive is impossible to work around because no one that doesn't own Skarner knows what the hell the crystals are for. Adding in an ability that stuns-and-drags an opponent Champion (leaving the opponent inactive, yet able to still be damaged just as badly as normal gameplay), and Skarner here has a winrate higher than Zed's (reaching very close to 60%). Karthus, while having a slightly less average winrate, has abilities that are just unneeded for healthy gameplay. While his Q and W are balanced, his E and especially his Ult are just toxic to play against. A very wide AoE burn and a Global that can take up more than half of all opponent's Health? I mean really Riot...I don't care that it has to charge for 3 seconds and can be interrupted, if you can't reach him in time he'll end up getting an effortless and faster Pentakill than a Katarina surrounded by squishy feeders. And if he doesn't, his team nearly always finishes up the job and quickly does an early Ace. Lastly Veigar. I don't really mind the CC, but when you add that to a Passive that allows his AP to infinitely increase, it just rubs me the wrong way. Mid? Great. Top? Even better. Support? It's like he was made for it. Even if he decides to go Support, he'll always be the Carry of any game because his AP just increases to the point where he kills everything effortlessly. It's like one of Riot's employees was playing with his tea cups and thought "You know what'd be cool? An evil wizard who doesn't give a fuck about anything. We should make this a Champ!" And so they did, and he continues to demolish any late game would-be hopefuls simply because Fuck You. I know this seems more like a rant, because it is, but it's like...do they even think about what they're doing there? First off the betrayal we're facing right now with Solo Queue never coming back is an atrocity, but it's not that bad compared to the fact you can't have a successful game in Ranked without 1) going in a full team of pissants who constantly send you game invites when you log in, because it's either that or you vs 5-man premades, and 2) having to pretty much master two roles before you can go into Ranked or your team will report you and you'll pretty much lose every game. Oh, by the way: starting Patch 6.11, you're no longer guaranteed either of your two roles. If your Queue timer "takes too long", you'll be forced into an autofill role which places you into any role other than the two you voted for. Want to Top or Mid? Nah, it's 5 minutes down the line, it's taking too long so we're putting you in Support instead. Better not feed or you'll lose LP and get reported~

6 Comments

Leopards Ghost2 votes

gameplay isn't supposed to be a forum for you to bitch about balance issues. it's supposed to be a gameplay forum. for people to talk about playing League.

would be nice if the mods would just delete all this crap but i guess i'll just have to report these for what they are: spam.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Technically this is Gameplay-related material. Though I suppose your How to Troll a Troll topic was better; barely any words in your topic summary really makes for an excellent topic to discuss about gameplay.

Leopards Ghost1 votes

it discusses strategy, how to deal with bad teammates, item benefits, and is a success story of an offmeta team composition. your thread is one long rant alongside the other river of spamposts that "technically" plague this board like cancer.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

People who don't know what skarner passive is have been living under a rock.

And saying that Veigar and Karthus are low risk high reward? Put them against a competent, viable assassin and they will get their asses pounded in.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Most people don't know what Skarner's Passive is; those people haven't played against him. Less of those people, but still a good majority, know what his Passive is, but don't know what it does for either team or how to combat it; those people end up losing just as much as the true majority. Those that own Skarner have practiced with him enough that they know what it does and what it does for each team. Generally, they end up winning with or against Skarner, but this is a minority because most people have believed the Internet and its memes about how Skarner's useless. And would this "competent, viable assassin" be something along the lines of Zed, Leblanc, Ekko, or XinZhao? Great, except these also counter most Mid Lane champs like Ahri, Diana, Brand, and Velkoz so there's not much of an argument there. Put anything less "Assassin" and more "any other class" and they'll get fed to oblivion for most games.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

I haven't met anyone asking what Slarner passive was since a month after he got reworked.

Also, Xin is not a mid lane assassin. You forgot to include Talon and Diana on that list. And no, those three champions you listed do not counter everyone (especially Diana; any competent Diana should destroy Zed or LB, and at least go even with Ekko).

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