Shaco has to be one of, if not the, most annoying champions to play against

Lowvyr·10/23/2015, 12:22:37 AM·23 votes·5,355 views

He never leaves my red. Ever.

Honestly, when there is a Shaco on the enemy team, I forget I even have a red buff. Hell, I forget my entire red side jungle sometimes. That motherfucker never leaves.

Could Campfire Shaco be a skin now?

36 Comments

A Miss Fortune10/23/2015, 10:32:52 AM3 votes

His kit is pretty broken and I wouldn't say he's far off from being a toxic champion even though he's suppose to be a clown. Shaco's entire game revolves around how well he does early game. If he gets ahead with a few kills and decent farm he'll be a monster that's difficult to catch, difficult to get away from, and he'll do a lot of damage. If he gets behind he'll be almost useless and irrelevant, his auto attack steroids like his passive are only strong if he's ahead, he still suffers from being insanely squishy, and he can't teamfight at all unless he's ahead.

You could say he's a feast or famine champion but I don't think those types of champions are necessarily healthy. If Shaco gets ahead, your ADC doesn't exist, your Jungle is his, and everyone probably loses a few hundred gold in buying pinks. If he gets behind, he's useless and a free kill.

TheDevice10/23/2015, 8:09:26 PM3 votes

Lol Nobody hates shaco cuz he wasn't made by CertainlyT

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Slamurai Jack10/23/2015, 4:41:50 AM3 votes

That's why you go take his buffs. Easy enough. Shaco only wins 1v1 if he gets the drop on you. Otherwise he get's shit on. Shaco invading you? Go invade him.

Only Play Darius10/23/2015, 6:35:50 PM2 votes

But that's Shaco's thing, he is supposed to fuck with your mind. The only other champion who is designed to play mind games with you is Leblanc, but compared to Shaco she doesn't get punished nearly as hard for fucking up, I will take Shaco over that piece of shit any day.

And if you really want to talk about champs that will never leave your red you should probably consider Shyvana.

Ulquiorra99510/23/2015, 2:49:19 PM2 votes

Am I the only one that finds Shaco to actually be on the healthier side of the spectrum, especially when it comes to assassins?

-His Q is an extremely powerful tool by itself: with blink, stealth and crit one might even call it overloaded. BUT - it is his highest damage ability and only mobility spell. This means that Shaco has to actually think when and how to use it - if uses it to get in at the wrong moment he has no get-out-of-jail-free cards, unlike some other assassins that most people hate for that very reason Fizz LeeSin Leblanc. He either gets to deal damage or use a powerful escape tool, not both.

-His survivability completely relies on his trickery and his ability to outplay opponents. Feign using Q in the wrong direction, confuse them with your clone or bait then into your W. All of these feel somewhat fair as the biggest factor is the skill of Shaco and his oponnent, not "how fast can I press my W button after getting caught in a bad spot" the aforementioned assassins have.

And I'd greatly prefer playing against Shaco every game than against some of the blatantly broken and/or overpowered champion that Riot obviously refuses to nerf in any meaningful way, including but not limited to LeeSin Thresh Leblanc Vayne.

Ralanr10/23/2015, 5:13:36 AM1 votes

Well he does bring chaos. And frustration!

The Bearded Bard10/23/2015, 5:27:33 AM1 votes

Take his buffs, drop some pinks, work with your team to kill him. The only way he's going to win in a 1v1 fight with junglers like XinZhao Jax LeeSin JarvanIV Elise TahmKench Ekko etc, is if he profoundly outplays them or they're simply bad at the game.

Shaco preys on noobs. Only way to counter him is to not be a noob.

PiVoRx10/23/2015, 12:00:50 PM1 votes

Shaco suffers from same issues as evelyn, we dont have valid way to deal with invisibility early game, pinks are too big investment when you try to get your first item.

RisenDarkKnight10/23/2015, 3:30:15 PM1 votes

Legit just go straight to his red. That's what I used to do whenever I played amumu vs shaco. Most shacos will go to your red after their blue, so going to their red after your blue will avoid them completely. Like they will just wait for you in your jg for about a minute while you just keep farming. If they are at their red they probably aren't invading so you can safely leave and go back to your jungle.

iDiscreet10/24/2015, 2:37:36 PM1 votes

that actually depends on who is actually playing him. same goes for teemo

Shac Norris10/23/2015, 12:29:13 AM1 votes

That's why i play him ap mid!!

I'm even closer to your jungle...

i hate top laner1/3/2017, 12:22:50 AM1 votes

shaco is just fking unskill he just r q and e than gg

Shroom Junkie10/23/2015, 12:41:48 AM1 votes

CAMPFIRE SHACO. I NEED IT. btw you probably hate me because I main Shaco <3

ModAcademy Kayn10/23/2015, 2:28:10 AM1 votes

Heimerdinger at least you can try to outplay a shaco...

WookieJesuz10/23/2015, 4:28:53 AM1 votes

Nunu

Ace Access 10/23/2015, 4:39:27 AM1 votes

camp stealing shaco would be a more accurate name