Tank Meta =/= Tanks Viable

Frosted Tips··6 votes·3,337 views

I keep seeing posts saying Tank Meta was better than this meta which I very much disagree with. Both Tank Meta and this one suck. At least with this meta there is more than One viable class Top and Jungle.

But let's get things straightened out Tank Meta is when there is 2-4 tanks per team. Tank Meta does not mean tanks are just viable.

IMO a good meta would have 0-2 tanks, 1-2 DPS, 0-1 enchanters, 1-2 fighter, 1 mage or assassin.

What do you guys think?

15 Comments

Tahminatrix 3 votes

You triggered me when you said 0-2 tanks and 0-1 enchanters

I want a team full of tanks and / or enchanters who are all peeling for towers and neutral monsters.

But ya, when a tank doesn't die in 2 seconds, that isn't tank meta that is tank being tank :/

When you have tanks with aoe spells that cc AND do damage then that is the only time I have a problem but ofcourse some damage is okay because otherwise tanks would be useless in solo queue or just low elo in general.

The fact that some people called Illaoi a tank was mind blowing, this is also a huge misunderstanding of what tanks are, illaoi doesn't setup for her team , she is nothing more than a damage threat that requires setup to an extent. Darius is similar but he doesn't really need as much setup.

Frosted Tips1 votes

I want a team full of tanks and / or enchanters

Ok so you want the real tank meta back

But ya, when a tank doesn't die in 2 seconds, that isn't tank meta that is tank being tank :/

Never said it that and I agree with this. So idk what the point of saying this was.

The fact that some people called Illaoi a tank was mind blowing, this is also a huge misunderstanding of what tanks are, illaoi doesn't setup for her team , she is nothing more than a damage threat that requires setup to an extent. Darius is similar but he doesn't really need as much setup.

Agreed again but I didn't know people were calling her a tank they seem very misguided.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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Ok so you want the real tank meta back

Read the rest of that I didn't want tank meta back I wanted a team like that in this current patch, peeling for jungle monsters and towers. It was clearly a joke.

Never said it that and I agree with this. So idk what the point of saying this was.

Same point as my last paragraph, people complain about tanks not dieing to burst and then being (bursted) by "tanks"

Agreed again but I didn't know people were calling her a tank they seem very misguided.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Same point as my last paragraph, people complain about tanks not dieing to burst and then being (bursted) by tanks

Back during the tank meta some tanks were bursting some champions. Their numbers were ridiculous so I understand being afraid of that coming back. Oh and I forgot to ask why are you triggered by 0-2 tanks and 0-1 enchanter? Most games would have at least 1 tank and enchanters would probably be in most games so idk what the issue is.

Tahminatrix 4 votes

It was a joke about how tanks and enchanters are not viable by themselves and need something to peel for, like a wolf camp or a turret or maybe baron.

It was the 0 part that got me, since that is stating the reverse for fighters mages and other damage dealers.

nfzeta1 votes

the thing is its the community who decided that whenever tanks actually do their job its tank meta. Whenever people can't just rip through tanks and have to play around them, people complain "tank meta, tank meta T_T"

Illabethe2 votes

The changes didn't really help win games tbh. So 3 champs getting tank boosts really didn't do much.

As long as item 3031 is in the game in its current incarnation..... a tank can go 9/0/9 all he wants, but once the adc has that IE, it's over.

I tried a Sion right after the patch, and that was pretty much my result.

I absolutely shut down every single lane on the map, and their jungler....

and then my team turret dived a Jinx with Stormrazor, fed her a triple, and got her going on her item 3031

here's where that game ended up:

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2847269884/243999882?tab=overview

I had over 5500 HP in a short game. Died so fast I couldn't even R away, or flash over a wall. Barriers and all. Gone poof.

I just love how people who die a lot can just come back into game with the OP items and shred everyone and win. (If you look at the bottom: Jinx had 11 kills in a killing spree, but literally went 11/9/9. What does that tell you? Oh right. Before she got those 11 kills, she went 0/9. She never died again).

I've also FOUGHT the new Amumu . Shredded him hard. Each time.

Leona Still doesn't get picked because of the true damage meta and her all in presence vs mage bot lane risk.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Sorry just wanted to clear things up I wasn't talking about tanks being weak or strong just that people are using the term "tank meta" wrong.

IMO tanks are very weak for the most part but some are absurd and need reworks like DrMundo and some also are bad and need reworks like Amumu.

heroikc1 votes

Hm, better remember this definition. Thanks for clarifying.

Colton1471 votes

Protect the KogMaw.

Top: Taric

Jungle: Leona

Mid: Lulu

ADC: KogMaw

Support: Janna

Frosted Tips1 votes

Ahh I remember Reworked turret Kog'Maw.

GodlyBane1 votes

tanks will always be, always have been, and wont ever stop being, viable.

Caidicus1 votes

Technically the Rock,paper,scissors thing riot used to describe would be a good meta if it was actually possible without something like a tank fizz or a tank echo.

What I mean is the TanksSion Malphite Maokai beat burstZed Ahri Annie but tanks get

beaten by DPSXayah Cassiopeia Varus but they get beaten by the burst.

That will leave at least two players that can either be a another DPS,Burst,or tank. Or they can be someone who fills in the weaknesses of their team, a support, or a generalist that may tip the rock, paper, scissors type of gameplay.

Frosted Tips2 votes

Yup I like where you are coming from this needs to happen where everything is being played and that there is counter measures for each type of champion and class.

redniwediS1 votes

One thing I'd like to add is that a Tank meta can also be the same 2-4 tanks over and over. Just because a meta is being defined by Tanks does not mean the Tank class is viable as a whole, which kind of defeats the purpose of calling it a Tank meta but no one is going to adapt to something more accurate.

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