Zyra feels awful with these new runes.

Advacus·11/16/2017, 7:43:58 PM·12 votes·1,815 views

I am a long-standing Zyra main, and I was super hyped for these new runes to launch (like most people were.) But I am extremely disappointed as too how these runes effected Zyra. I waited this while to pinpoint exactly what it was that nerfed her so hard, but I think it comes down too none of the keystones are very good on her. With the change that her plant's cant count as two casts hits of electrocuting her laning phase is relatively weak compared to most other sups. I believe this to be the case that she was balanced with that easy and reliable thunderlords proc every time it was available (which was a TON of damage) I have been running aery and found some success but her chip damage with plants feels underwhelming. I believe her team fighting is about the same but you enter team fights with less gold so I feel weaker there too.

Ultimately Zyra just doesn't feel strong this is also supported by the -2% win rate change between patches, I am unsure of how to approach the problem but perhaps raising her plants damage (her Q and E and R feel fine as they have not changed) or change electrocute so that she has access to some burst power again.

Advacus,

P.S. I am really just writing this to raise awareness of an unfortunate state of Zyra right now, hope she gets tuned correctly soon!

25 Comments

Zyrannosaurus11/16/2017, 9:04:12 PM4 votes

She feels extremely weak.

Sonic Adventure11/16/2017, 8:31:55 PM2 votes

I'm a D5 Zyra main as well and I find her in a pretty good spot. I've tried all the runes and my favorite so far is Electrocute. Easy to proc and good for trading and one shot-ing. Aery and comet (especially comet with Lyandris) work as well. I hope she doesn't get buffed and see her every other game. That'd be really boring.

Fertsa11/16/2017, 9:09:01 PM1 votes

I personally wish that there were more options for pets, since pets can't trigger a majority of the new runes

Pandeonor11/17/2017, 2:12:54 PM1 votes

I feel her weakness too. It´s imho about the less MP throughout the whole game with the new runes wich made her weaker. She clearly does not as much damage as before. [So - I actually do not play any serious game yet and prefere ARAM because of this weakness - even I am an Zyra OTP]

But - according to Riot she will get a rework before new season. So I look forward. [Even.... I don´t expect too much.]

Chortle11/19/2017, 12:23:02 AM1 votes

I think she is okay with the changes, but there are so many other options that are just plain better than Zyra with new runes.

Like you said, her plant autos doing only one proc towards Electrocute means she has to get into AA range to get the damage. Speaking of her plants, their damage is probably the most negligible they have been EVER.

All that aside, I find Aery is the most reliable keystone to run. She can make use of a lot of different mage runes, it just depends on how you want to play.

As some people have said, the lack of Mpen early seemed to hurt her, but MR is also lacking in runes so it somewhat balances out.

Overall she is average right now, but there are so many other champions that are ABOVE average that she seems worse by default.

YuGiHo11/16/2017, 7:48:22 PM1 votes

only ting she can take right now is arey but thats gong to get worse after the nerfs, either way zyra wont have the mana to make trades as often as the champs abusing it right now

Tseison11/19/2017, 7:52:48 PM1 votes

I personally feel that Zyra needs a new kit overall but that's just me wanting her to be more of a champion summoning giant vines (pretty much giving her what illaoi has with her tentacles), vine walls, just overall plant control on a much bigger scale as opposed to this "Plants vs Zombies" feeling but anyways...

With her runes i've been having trouble as to what feels good on her (I play her often in support), I definitely will give electrocute a try. I just wish they didn't get rid of all the magic pen runes since i miss having a full page of that for her. [sg-soraka]

NTrumpWeTrust11/16/2017, 8:19:03 PM1 votes

Support zyra with comet and mana band is better than ever. The amount of harass is insane.