Master yi needs a buff

Right Click Only·Oct 2, 2017·3 votes·1,202 views

FIrst of all some facts: Master yi is broken in bronze/silver elo, according to champion.gg in silver elo in the first 20 minutes he has a 52% win rate. The problem is in Platanum or higher he is garbage tier with a 45% win rate in the first 20 mins. Also currently on the EUW, NA and Korea server there are zero Master yi mains in Master or challenger elo.

Not only that currently he is hard countered by every meta tank jungler like Rammus/Sejuani and is crapped on by all meta adc's like Tristana and Xayah. To top it off he can't do shit against champs with stealth like Vayne/Khazix/Shaco. On top of everything I mentioned he can't do shit against a team that build Zhonyas and GA because he can't get any resets.

What I'm trying to say is if a champion is good in silver doesn't make the champ good overall. Please I don't care what it is this champ needs some changes.

EDIT: I can imagine all the Bronzes downvoting and diagreeing with these simple undeniable facts.

9 Comments

69469238DEL1Oct 2, 20172 votes

Yeah I climbed to Platinum this season with Yi but I can't get past P3 on him, and I've heard that without a duo that Diamond 5-4 is his cap for one tricks, its pretty sad

SuperLuigiLXIVOct 2, 20171 votes

That's....just how champions work though.

A champion that's simple to play and requires coordination to beat is going to excel in lower ranks where coordination is severely lacking, and they're going to fall off as you climb higher and people become more adept at working together with complete strangers. A lot of that can be made up for with knowing your champion and having really good timing, but eventually you're going to reach a point where players on the enemy team account for even that.

Right Click OnlyOct 2, 20171 votes

Agreed 100% but what when Diamond 5-4 is the furthest a champion can carry and there are literally 0 one tricks above that rank on multiple servers? It just means the champion itself is lacking, no matter how good the player is, he is limited to D5 because the champ itself simply doesn't work any higher in terms of elo. I personally feel you should be able to reach challenger with any champ in the game as long as you have good game knowledge and mechanics with the champion, right now this isn't possible with yi but ofcourse he won't get a buff because hes broken in silver.

SuperLuigiLXIVOct 2, 20171 votes

Right, but the thing is, there's only one mechanic with Yi, two if you're being generous:

Timing Q to outplay attacks or escapes.
Timing W to reduce damage at the right instant in time.

That's it. There's nothing else to learn with his kit. Outside of those two things, he is a "beeline right at someone and right-click them to death" champion. Which is what makes him strong in lower ELOs, but the less dimensions a champion in League has, the easier it is to predict what they're going to do and when.

My question is--what do you want changed about Yi? Keep in mind, anything you want GIVEN to him comes at the expense of something else being taken AWAY. He can't remain as powerful as he is in lower ELOs and also be given gifts to help him in higher ELOs. He's not Fiora or Yasuo, he doesn't get the privilege of a disgustingly overloaded kit.

Right Click OnlyOct 2, 20171 votes

It doesn't have to be a big buff It can be something like reverting the nerfs he received on his ult in patch 6.8 which were

Cooldown increased to 85 from 75 Duration reduced to 7 seconds from 10 On-kill/on-assist duration extension increased to 7 seconds from 4

TheSingularityOct 2, 20171 votes

The issue is how it will impact the majority, league's low elo community. If yi was designed with more mechanics, weaknesses and room for failure he'd have a significant amount of wriggle room for changes. But that isn't the case, placing him in the same boat as garen/annie because when he's strong in high elo, he's give up and afk in fountain for low elo.

Those buffs were big enough that you want them reverted. While again, I agree that it sucks that he's too weak in high elo I just can't think of any kind of buff that doesn't punish low elo and help you in a 2:1 ratio.

Remember feral flare yi/udyr? Or sated kayle/yi/udyr? While yi doesn't have that power anymore it doesn't feel any less shit if you have an ill equiped team to deal with him. Generally not a problem for me, but what if no one wants to play the point click cc champ? May as well dodge then as without it the game is already over.

Fun for one person while 5 others feel like sitting in fountain so they can move on to a more enjoyable game asap.

Perhaps propose a rework? As a kore complex kit is the only way he will ever be allowed more power in game.

ShiznyteOct 2, 20171 votes

Master Yi is a late game champion so it doesn't surprise me that his win rate pre-20 minutes in High elo games is low. He is a snowball champion that if you give him an Inch a good Yi will take a mile. His alpha Strike has great outplay potential along with his Heal allowing him to face tank. His damage late game is godly and that is his job... do damage. You may need to build a QSS on Yi vs certain match ups and every champion has bad match ups so Yi should have some bad match ups too. He is a risky pick but its high risk and high reward because if there is a fed Yi Running you down and murdering your team its pretty dangerous stuff.

iVIEWBOTOct 2, 20171 votes

im confident faker could get challenger maining yi

he just chooses not to

Mokiller5Oct 6, 20171 votes

In all honesty tho, he just needs 1 simple buff. Rito give back his 100 percent reset on his Q PLZZZZZ, you took it away from him in season 3 its been 4 years rioto give it back!!!!

like legit tho chaining alpha strikes back to back felt so slick + it will make the crit build viable cause your not totally squishy since you can q again immediately.... see example of season 3 video below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQAlqQxvlu8