Why does her ult scale off magic damage? And why does her W only scale off physical damage? This confuses me, it rejects both full AD and full AP ashe. I mean, she works without it. But she's not the best. And why does her W proc ludens echo? That shit is for my ulti bb.
EndlessSorcerer5 votesBasically, they wanted her ultimate to be a utility spell when she was designed. They didn't want it to not scale at all, so they let it scale off of AP instead of AD.
Volley is Ashe's main poke and damage abilities. It scales off AD (which Ashe typically builds) to let it get a bit of extra damage over time.
All abilities which do not apply on-hit effects will proc Luden's Echo.
However, you have to keep in mind that Ashe is a Utility ADC. Where other ADCs have damage steroids (i.e. Vayne's Silver Bolts, Kog'maw Bioarcane Barrage, Tristan's Rapid Fire, etc), Ashe has utility (through vision, slows, and her stun) to help her team.
Since Ashe doesn't really get much damage from her abilities, she's pretty much a dedicated autoattacker. Try building her with standard ADC items (Infinity Edge, Phantom Dancer, Last Whisper, Bloodthirster/Blade of the Ruined King, Defensive item) and you'll see why her abilities work how they do. You start off weak, but you have similar damage to other carries late-game and a lot more utility.
Soda Popkillski1 votesProblem is, that's not how ADC's work. They are supposed to have heavy damage and good late-games. Ashe's late-game is terrible, and her damage is low. Even Jinx who has about the same utility does like 10x the damage.
EndlessSorcerer3 votesDifferent ADCs have different strengths. Vayne is a strong duelist, Kog'maw is a tank-killer, Caitlyn has range and a strong laning phase, Corki has mixed damage with a strong mid game, Ezreal has poke, and Ashe has utility.
Ashe's early game is weak, but her late game is quite strong. While she is immobile and lacks burst damage she has more utility, range, and innate attack speed than most other ADCs while helps her survive to deal consistent DPS. She can engage fights safely, consistently slow entire teams, and safely scout the map or get vision in jungle fights without exposing herself to danger.
Ashe's damage is comparable to most other ADC's lategame since they rely on autoattacks to deal the majority of their damage at that point. She might have less burst damage than many ADCs, but her utility can make up for it when used properly.
Jinx has less utility than Ashe since her snares have a delay and her slow is telegraphed. While Jinx may have higher DPS when her Q can hit multiple targets or she can benefit from her attack speed steroid, she also has very low innate attack speed and has to choose between her steroids; if she uses her rockets, she has abysmal attack speed and if she uses her attack speed, she has low range.
Part of the reason Ashe is considered weak is that she needs allies to peel for her a bit more than more mobile ADCs (which requires coordination not found at lower tiers of play), she has a weak laning phase (when many soloqueue games are decided by snowballing), and has trouble with champions diving her (when Vi, Jarvan, and Lee Sin were very popular).
She's not the best choice for every game as she can be a bit niche, but don't mistake that for Ashe being weak.
Soda Popkillski1 votesAnd one of the main reasons Ashe is considered weaks is because she's not an ADC, she's an AD marksman. Soraka is almost as good of an ADC as Ashe. I mean, that's Ashe's problem. When you need large amounts of physical damage you instead get utility. I'm not saying Ashe is a bad character, but i'm saying she doesn't currently fit in.
Passionlip2 votesW is her skill for do damage with AD, while her Ult has a lot of power in it, so it don't get ap scaling. She's an Utility ADC, her ult is not for damage, but for the global CC °_
ZombieNinja War1 votesNo offence but this post don't matter because she is getting re worked
Sukishoo6 votesOnly a very small rework.
ZombieNinja War1 votesthey are changing her abilities and passive
Sukishoo6 votesNo. They've said they are changing her passive, moving the gold gain off her E and then tweaking the others. So it's a very small scale.
ZombieNinja War1 votesand they said her ult probably a little. so they are changing everything a little so..... your post don't matter..... I WIN
Sukishoo7 votesAgain they are TWEAKING the ult not changing it. So you're sad. Cause they confirmed right here
it's SMALL SCALE. So learn things a bit more before you say them.
also your post "doesn't" make sense :P
ZombieNinja War1 votesI Didn't say it was large scale i just said they were changing everything so ya. your fighting for no reason. I WIN
Sukishoo6 votesYou are just sad cause you're completely wrong. They aren't changing them at all in the way you've said.
ZombieNinja War1 votesre·work rēˈwərk/Submit verb make changes to something, especially in order to make it more up to date. "he reworked the orchestral score for two pianos" and i wasn't specific i just said they plan on changing her up. i even said they are changing her a little. so where are you confused?
Sukishoo6 votesYawn. You're still talking? You said the person that made the post didn't matter cause they were reworking her, but it DOES still matter cause they aren't reworking her heavily. She will still have the same abilities, save for the passive, but the others will have small changes. They aren't changing her kit entirely.
So again, learn things before you say them.
And you keep acting like a child saying "I WIN! I WIN!" so no one is listening.
ZombieNinja War1 votesyou need to learn to read i said this post don't matter not you. So again, learn things before you say them. and your reading this so ha
Sukishoo6 votesYou're just sad cause you're wrong, end of story.
ZombieNinja War1 votesactually i wasn't wrong tho. so ya type back plz to show you are salty. i know you will reply. lol I WIN!!
Sukishoo6 votesKeep living that delusion, cause you are.
ZombieNinja War1 voteslol salty I WIN. and they are changing her abilities a little bit. thats what started all this maybe read what i posted. your having a hard time reading maybe get your mom to help you.
Sukishoo6 votesYou really are pathetic. "salty" I'm sorry, salt is a condiment usually placed on food. It's not meant to describe people. So can't take you seriously at all.
And you didn't "win" anything cause you continue to point out things that you said and try to change the way you said them. So good luck with that kid.
ZombieNinja War1 votesLearn to read. im not changing anything i said. but i have better things to do so see you around salty kid that will reply as in if you reply your bad and salty lol I WIN