What if we just nerfed the obvious issue?

GigglesO·Apr 20, 2018·2 votes·930 views

The new runes... Yea you heard me, most of these problems are S8 unique.

Just nerf the stats you get when you take your secondary tree.

14 Comments

rawiazam1Apr 20, 20182 votes

the problem here isn't the ad/ap. it's the base defenses.

very low base armor/magic resist for most champs

archerno1Apr 20, 20181 votes

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the problem here isn't the ad/ap. it's the base defenses.

very low base armor/magic resist for most champs

Every champion got increased Armor and Magic resistance when new runes were added to compensate for old runes.

GigglesOApr 20, 20181 votes

Not even close to what was given from runes.

VoraciousXApr 21, 20181 votes

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Except that the new runes are more powerful than both the masteries and runes combined used to be, and the adc's got that dope as 9 ad buff.

You realize ADCs always had around 14% AS in quints with 9 AD marks, right? At level 1 now they get like 12% attack speed and 6 AD. So 2% less AS and 3 less AD. if they get kills they eventually get more, but that's just a feast or famine thing, and at most they get from runes is 27% attack speed with 6 AD. Which yes is a lot more(they have to get 10 kills for this), but it's basically a dagger more attack speed.

Runes are not the problem and if anything they're the best thing League has done.

GigglesOApr 21, 20181 votes

Except the early armor that you can nolonger get to fight them with... And adc's got the most out of the stat readjustments at the beginning of the season.

All they did was remove defense, because thats all people took. The other options were viable before. They just made the game even more feast or famine.

VoraciousXApr 21, 20181 votes

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Except the early armor that you can nolonger get to fight them with... And adc's got the most out of the stat readjustments at the beginning of the season.

All they did was remove defense, because thats all people took. The other options were viable before. They just made the game even more feast or famine.

They compensated everyone for their armor loss.

GigglesOApr 21, 20181 votes

Mordekaiser

That 25 base armor, keeping me strong.

They didn't compensate shit.

archerno1Apr 21, 20181 votes

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Not even close to what was given from runes.

Well if u ran full armor page then i guess u are right. But mostly everyone got compensated fairly:

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-722-notes

Riot basically checked runes used by high elo players and pros and increased champion stats accordingaly. For example on Leona i used to run 20 armor page and this was Leonas buff

BASE ARMOR 27.21 ⇒ 47 W - Eclipse BASE ARMOR 20/30/40/50/60 ⇒ 25/35/45/55/65

Every ADC got armor increase by 9 because thats yellow rune page they ran. Most Bruisers and supports got 9 armor too. And i believe every jungler got 9 armor too.

ZackTheWaffleManApr 20, 20182 votes

Irelia? Yeah, I agree.

GigglesOApr 20, 20181 votes

Take my upvote.

rawiazam1Apr 20, 20181 votes

with the old runes you could start with +30 ad

GigglesOApr 20, 20181 votes

Except that the new runes are more powerful than both the masteries and runes combined used to be, and the adc's got that dope as 9 ad buff.

rawiazam1Apr 26, 20181 votes

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Except that the new runes are more powerful than both the masteries and runes combined used to be, and the adc's got that dope as 9 ad buff. again, over the season. riot nerfed most base armor and base magic resist. that's what makes them so powerfull. i remember when most bruisers got around 100 armor level 18. now there are few

GigglesOApr 26, 20181 votes

Your portion of the argument is inside the quote bubble... it isn't even base resists either, its items, tank items used to be more powerful in comparison. 1500 hp on warmogs, yes please.