Premade 1,2,3 Limiter Enabled
We are now enabling premade limiter 1,2,3 for Diamond 5 and above in NA.
We're are also adjusting autofill to require a longer estimated queue time.
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Ah, so you're able to restrict the number of people queuing up after all...funny how you mentioned the old system wouldn't work...then this happens. I don't know whether to question your intelligence or question your motives during this whole fiasco.
You can't fix something that was built broken - not that you care anyway. This is your precious baby and you mean to fight tooth and nail to defend it. Fine, but just some food for thought; if you really mean to improve the system, you would decrease that limiter to a max of 2.
But wait, would that make it just like the old system? Huh, I suppose it does. Maybe you should do that instead, but for all elos.
Edit: Look, it's like trying to replace an old window. The one we had was old, yes, it got stuck sometimes when we tried to open and close it, it was rather plain with nothing going on about it, but it worked. What is Dynamic? It's like you thought that the window was too plain, too boring, and otherwise too unappealing when you have an idea for something better suited for the room it's in as you renovate the inside (much to a lot of our dismay.)
Instead of going out and picking something that works well, you decide "hey, we're gonna make our own!" You begin smashing different colored glass to make a stain-glass window for this "improved" room. You realize quickly, that you're not prepared for this type of job, and in a flash, you have the idea to use glue and tape to hold the shattered pieces together.
The result is an abomination. It keeps the draft out for the most part, sure, but it looks like a fucking monstrosity, and you're confused as to why people don't like it. The next solution to try and fix this is to take out some of the smaller, flimsier pieces, and replace them with larger ones. It's improved the quality, it makes it better to look at, but better does not equal pleasant. After all the work you've put into trying to make this look nice, wouldn't it be an easier task and a more efficient strategy to just put the old window back in?
youre almost there.
now limit everything to 1 for all ratings, and open a separate 5v5 ladder.
@riot socrates
hows it feel to let millions of people down on a constant basis? hows it feel when u realize ur plan failed? hows it feels when even the pro's and everyone below them agree this is a trash system besides the ones being boosted? hows it feel to ruin one of the most popular games in the world?
last but not least, how does it feel to just be a (insert bad terms here)?
seriously, if you're so delusional that u take the benefits of new champ select and try to claim its bc of DQ. while also ignoring the facts that everything else got worse (from matchmaking quality, que time, etc)? like holy chet man, i want w/e ur smoking....
seriously tho, you need to be fired and if u dont know why, you need professional assistance also
everyone takes an L sometimes, but its people like you who cant own up to em, say sorry then repeat the same thing over and over....
good PR btw....this is better PR than last time or the times b4 when you constantly say "we suck at communicating our bad we will get better".....so next time u lie about it, then ignore it for months then come in and say welp sorry we suck and we'll do better next time? next time has come and gone, time for you to leave honestly
and take meddler/ghostcrawler with you plz -signed most people...
BTW NICE thumb counts on your roundtable video....3-1 majority with simple upvote/downvotes and not biased surveys with choices like "do you like dynamic que?" "do you like grouping with friends?" that obv means people prefer to get rid of the game theyve played for half a decade for this new system thats been out for a day....oh there wasnt a this is total shet option and will ruin the game? dam we coulda saw this coming if only we put a choice that DIDNT AGREE with dynamic que.....or surveyed everyone.....and them statistics that NEVER get shown and constant apologizing for fking up....
at this point, any boss with a brain would have fired you and its sad you're still working at riot
take a long break man, permanently
So you try to fix your broken system by removing a part of the system?
How is this going to effect the Challenger Series (and LCS by extension)? Ranked 5 is no more, and you can't queue with 5 in Diamond 5+, so where are next years teams going to come from?
So how about admitting you can't fix Dynamic Queue?
The very thing you did here is just that, "Dynamic queue can't be fixed, so here's a band-aid that removes Dynamic Queue from Diamond and higher".
You also nearly removed the new role selection by adding "autofill".
[zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-facepalm]
YOU CANNOT FIX SOMETHING THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN.
YOU ARE ONLY WASTING YOUR TIME WITH THESE TWEAKS.
GIVE PEOPLE MORE OPTIONS INSTEAD OF LIMITING THEM.
... also please for the love of god, change your name. However, thank you for not being a wuss and posting this to the correct boards category and taking dem downvotes, which you deserve, like a man.
So playing as a full team in D5+ is now impossible? Seems a little strange to me, but okay.
"We want you to play with your friends in Ranked. But only up to 2 of them."
Can we hurry up and get a separate queue for Ranked teams implemented?
and you expect me to thank you for ruining semi-pro lvl? why dynamic queue is in diamond anyway?
your name is socrate, but you aren't like him at all.
Yes, now give the trio queue limiter to the rest of us.
TL;DR: We're giving high elo players SQ, but you lower elos just need to embrace the suck.
Why just for Diamond and above? Are you just letting them get help and completely ignoring the lower tiers?
Terrible job. You have now effectively screwed the large majority and elite minority. Congratulations on destroying what extremely little benefits Dynamic Queue actually had.
If you are going to do this, then limit premade queuing across all brackets instead.
Why not for all ranks?
I hope you feel bad for that horrible system you brought upon your players.
LOL..
This is such a stupid decision- you guys don;t get it. It's not about premades- it's about the ranked integrity
How are teams supposed to enter the challenger series now? Give back 5v5s
Premade 3s of high-level teams will still have a huge advantage over solos and duos at high tiers. Make it solo-duo
Lower tiers are still dissatisfied. Reinstate across all tiers.
Huh. Who wants to bet this is the next direction? lol.
lmao socrates mate, i think you are the next one that will follow lyte (if you are smart as you look) time to leave the boat
Do this to every rank (from Bronze to Challenger) and the community will be much happier!
The premade limiter should be set to 1 and for all tiers. If it is good for diamond and above, it is good for everyone.
will you be enacting the change to limit premades to 1,2 for the rest of the ranks as well?
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE bitching and complaining. It's a god damn game with a company who I'm sure tries their best. If any of you people who sit there bitch and complain why not get our ass up and try to work there since riot is full of "retards". I'm sure everyone can do their jobs better then they can. Oh wait you don't work their i guess you're just too intelligent for their job. So please shut the hell up and thank these people for their damn time and effort and stress. I'm sorry that some people have to work for a living while others are just handed everything to them in life. Some news that's not how the world works. Edit: I have an issue with grammar so I apologize for any mistakes in my post
"it would be weird if someone reached diamond by playing as 5's and than having to play as 3's after a certain elo"
We are now enabling this.
So much contradiction over the use of a feature no one wants.
Just bring back solo queue, you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
So for Diamond+ you are removing the system you were so exited and proud of. Because it failed, Both of the parts of the system are now gone, 5 teams and choosing your 2 roles, how about this system that everyone has now realized that it failed gets turned off, and we get the solo queue that we wan't.
So basically for us high elo players we now have ALMOST solo/duo queue back except for the spicy mechanic of getting a random fucking role without a choice to opt out of it.
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cool, now make that go for every elo and dynamic queue suddenly looks a bit better
Autofill seems like a completely terrible idea to force on someone. If someone queues up for the roles they can play at the level they need for their ELO, and you push them into a role they can't you're making them have less fun at the same time as nearly forcing a loss onto them. That's bad design for a non-opt-in feature.
squints at comments
realizes nobody that commented is actually Diamond V or higher
sips tea
Are you really this terrible at your job?
riot sounds like a drug addict in denial right now. justifying and rationalizing all your bad decisions.
riot should have a rolling party, expand your mind for once, think outside of the box and see what others see. or just smoke some weed and get a reality check.
i'm from euw but there is 1 thing i don't get... i'm ok with the autofill, the oldQ system worked with that fine except rare cases but that's my question... let's say in the old Q you started and ask for your role if you were a 1tricky pony or for some roles you could fill and still play without being horrible at it. Everyone (all the 10 players) had the same coin flip of going in their main role as in their worst role. Now i don't understand the new auto fill... so if you are unlucky now you go in a role you can't play vs your enemy that is in his primary role?? if you make the system a coin flip as it was before make it EVEN. It is even if everyone has the same chance of randomly doing/getting something you are making the new system as a luck system. Hey you got lucky you got your main role 10/10 hey you are unlucky you are the only one who does always autofill enjoy your experience have fun here!.
We're are also? [zombie-brand-facepalm]
The dynamic queue cash grab to try to get random casual normal players (so they buy more skins etc.) at the expense of ranked integrity and meaning behind the borders isn't going to be supported just by doing this.
Why dont you just bring back Solo/Duo but maintaining the new Champ Select. That would be a lot better.